[Asterisk-Users] RE: "open" asterisk?

[gw at adcomcorp.com]

And development costs?  To develop a card is not cheap, unless you are
in China :) 

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janvb at caselaboratories.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] RE: "open" asterisk?

10 Million is ca 10,000 boards/licenses if you assume 1000 USD in
average. I know the Digium boards are some of the cheapest around, but
the actual production cost should be below 150 USD for a 4xE1/T1 of this
type, meaning that they still should have very decent margins.

jan

gw at adcomcorp.com wrote:

>I wouldn't believe 10mil/yr.   Maybe if they had other non-asterisk
>products, but that just does not seem reasonable if you look at 
>asterisk at this stage.  Besides, are they a public company? Are they 
>required to report to the SEC?  That makes a big difference.  I mean 
>realistically, a 900 dollar software product or less than 10k hardware 
>product needs a lot of sales to hit around 10mil.  And the tech support

>would have enourmous overhead.
>
>But if digium is also doing custom ivr's and such, you can easily do a 
>few million there, however you have to have well over 100 employees.
>
>Oh unrelated, I have talked to people who tend to hype up their
company.
>I feel it is bad business, but have heard people saying 'yes I will hit
>5 million this year, and have no loss'.  Later, I have seen them go 
>under.
>
>Greg
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>[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of calvis
>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:27 PM
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>Maybe this will open your eyes :)
>
>This article says Digium has sales of 10 million per year.
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>http://news.com.com/Is+the+telephone+industry+ready+for+open+source/200
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>2_3-5737703.html
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>[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of 
>gw at adcomcorp.com
>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:04 PM
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>Millions of dollars in hardware sales?  I admit I don't know what there

>sales level is, but I doubt that it's 1 mil at this stage in the game.
>And, if it were, that has nothing to do with profit.  You can make 1 
>mil in sales in a year but still walk away with a net loss.
>
>Without the community where would digium be? Don't know, probably doing

>the same but in a proprietary format, giving people no choice but to 
>shell out the big bucks.
>
>I for one am happy they started up the project, and if they did in turn

>make Asterisk proprietary, I would probably shell out the cash since it

>offers what no other pbx can offer.
>
>Greg
>
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>[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Van

>Dyk
>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:51 AM
>To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>Subject: [Asterisk-Users] RE: "open" asterisk?
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>gw at adcomcorp.com wrote:
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>>As for the people who would suspect digium is strong-arming anyone, 
>>hell, if it weren't for them you wouldn't have asterisk would you?
>>And therefore probably no openpbx either, and we all would be spending
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>>thousands to do what asterisk can do for free.
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>And if it weren't for the community of indentured slaves and testers, 
>where would Digium be, with no users, contributors, or bug-reporters?
>Never mind the no millions of dollars of hardware sales.  It *should* 
>be a symbiotic relationship.
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