[Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

Vincent receive4me at gmail.com
Thu Mar 17 23:12:11 MST 2005


Hi all,

You don't want to be fooled by Race Vanderdecken. This guy has NO
business ethic. When He refused to realize a business deal in which I
agreed to pay for his coding help for me, will he personally pay for
the hosting of the list? More interestingly, he mentioned in the list
that he lives in  in Timbuktu, Ontario while he told me that he lives
in Asheville, North Carolina but home number is a Hendersonville, NC
phone number. I was just updated that according to the phone company
records that is not the name of the person the phone number is
associated with.

Regards,
Vincent


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:57:12 -0500, Race Vanderdecken
<asteriskusers at codetyrant.com> wrote:
> If some one would like to show me the site that explains how to setup a
> mailing list then I will create a Newbie list for asterisk and voip
> questions and answers.
> 
> I am only asking for someone to show me the site and maybe a few
> pointers on how to start it up. Only because I don't have the time or
> experience to do it quickely enough to get the newbies off the list. And
> I am a bit slow with apache and web type sutff, as you can tell by my
> website codetyrant.com.
> 
> I will personally pay for the hosting of the list.
> 
> It is not that I am tired or will ever grow tired of passing out fish
> and giving fishing lessons it is just I don't have the good fortune to
> be adept at web interfaces.
> 
> Also, suggestions for the domain name would be welcomed.
> 
> Race "The Tyrant" Vanderdecken
> 
> "In the Land of the Blind, the One-eyed man is Elvis...", copyright RPV
> 1997.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steven
> Critchfield
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:28 AM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie
> question,therethick!
> 
> On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 11:01 -0500, Race Vanderdecken wrote:
> > This list is owned by no one.
> 
> Actually it is owned by Digium. It has many contributers though.
> 
> > When someone drives off the road into a ditch in a snow storm they
> last
> > thing they need is someone telling them they should have invested in
> > snow chains and defensive driving lessons before leaving the house.
> >
> > Newbies need help getting out of the ditch so traffic can continue to
> > flow and the rubber neckers can be abated. If you are not willing to
> > pull off to the side of the road and help the fool by pushing their
> car
> > out of the ditch you have no right to give him the finger as you drive
> > past.
> 
> As a person who spent 9 hours in traffic last winter just to drive 15
> miles due to idiots who should have just stayed home, I think your
> analogy breaks down.
> 
> At some point, you either need to learn to drive or you pay someone else
> to transport you or your stuff. Same applies to computer work, either
> you can do the work yourself or you pay someone else to do it. Even your
> snow driver analogy works here, you either get yourself out of the ditch
> or you pay someone to do it for you.
> 
> The payment is not always monetary. Sometimes the payment is just a
> showing of sufficient effort. Back to your snow driver analogy, if the
> driver in the ditch is just waiting in the car for you to come over and
> push them out without even attempting anything on their own, you would
> be less inclined to bother. You would be even less inclined to continue
> exerting your own effort if the driver was not cooperating or wasn't
> even interested in getting out to help push.
> --
> Steven Critchfield <critch at basesys.com>
> 
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