[Asterisk-Users] Bill seconds

David John Walsh davidjohnwalsh at gmail.com
Fri Jun 17 03:26:34 MST 2005


Americo

60+60 isn't a VoIP term directly but a generic one within the telephony industry

if it were 60+30 it would mean the following

You are billed for 60 second as soon as the call is answered, even if
you only stay on the line for 7 seconds

The +30 then referes to the onward billing cycle, so in this case you
are billed in blocks of 30 seconds (ie if you call is 1 min 15 seconds
you are billed for 1 min 30)

You said that you are billed for a whole second minuite if you go over
by even 1 second, so that would be a +60, and since its always a
bigger or equal number first we are guessing that you are in 60+60
rate plan

I think its more common in your part of the world for your carriers to
bill 30+6.  One in the replys suggested a very favorable rate of 6+6

The important thing to rember here is that you can't gaurentee enough
return if you do a billing rate that is better than that of your
carriers - it sounds to me like your offering your service on a 1+1
(ie true per second billing) rate - very honarable, but your carrier
needs to offer the same.

I hope that helps

On 17/06/05, Americo Sanchez C. <masterlinux at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> >From: "Leon Sun" <leon at timestelecom.ca>
> >Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> ><asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
> >To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'"
> ><asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
> >Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Bill seconds
> >Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:56:23 -0700
> >
> >The easiest way is to change another vendor asap.
> Do you mean to change to another telecom? In my country there is a telephone
> monopoly :( Telefonica del Peru)
> >It is ridiculous that your
> >carrier still uses 60+60 now(30+6 is an asset). 2 seconds doesn't matter
> >and
> >billing unit does.
> Sorry I am not an expert in VoIP, What is the meaning of "60+60"?
> >
> >
> >Leon Sun
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
> >[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Darren Wiebe
> >Sent: June 15, 2005 10:06 PM
> >To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> >Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Bill seconds
> >
> >I've done a little thinking on this one....  If you are using ASTCC, it
> >would be fairly straightforward to edit it and have it make a 2 second
> >adjustment.  If your using another solution it probably would be fairly
> >easy also...
> >
> >Darren Wiebe
> >darren at aleph-com.net
> >
> >Americo Sanchez C. wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We've installed Asterisk on a rural development project and we're
> > > testing a prepaid phone service. As far as now we're having terrific
> > > service results but there's a problem with the calls billing at our
> > > local telecom. For instance, a farmer buys a 1 dollar phone card and use
> > > it to dial a USA number, the call should lasts for 60 seconds. Asterisk
> > > is doing a great job finishing the call exactly at 60 seconds. The
> > > problem is that the telecom company billing system adds a two second
> > > delay for each call, so the bill is not for 1 but 2 minutes (they round
> > > fractions up).
> > >
> > > We're loosing money and the local telecom doesn't seem to have a
> > > solution for this matter.
> > >
> > > Have you experienced something similar? Do you have any idea of how can
> > > we solve this? Is it possible to configure Asterisk so that the system
> > > thinks that a minute has 58 seconds instead of 60?
> > >
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