[Asterisk-Users] Fw: Gift for Mark Spencer

Christopher Dobbs crdobbs at eracew.net
Tue Nov 23 19:32:47 MST 2004


You, bloody moron.  Is not most email unsolicited.

I never asked you to send an email,
Your message is off topic,
Your getting rude,
therefor *YOU* are a spammer.

Now, in the name of all that is decent, drop this thread.  Lets get back 
to what we are all here for,
*discussing Asterisk*.

--
Christopher Dobbs
Systems Manager
Eracew Computer Services

Joe Greco wrote:

>>On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 19:06 -0600, Joe Greco wrote:
>>[..snip..]
>>    
>>
>>>On the flip side, senders of spam should not expect recipients to go 
>>>to much (or any) trouble on their behalf, especially given the current
>>>spam environment on the 'net.  They - not hackerwaCker - blew the 
>>>surprise by sending the message to recipients unknown.
>>>      
>>>
>>I'll just summarise all you said into one conclusion which remains the
>>same as to what Steven said: hackerwanker is a moron.
>>
>>:-)
>>    
>>
>
>No, that's not what I said.  If you want the short, brutal summary, it'd
>be:  
>
>The spammer who sent the message is the moron.
>
>Really, there are all sorts of bizarre phishing schemes and other scams out
>on the 'net.  If you go asking random people for donations, and cannot put
>the request in the context of solid well-knowns, such as an organization or
>individual who is clearly legitimate, then it looks quite possibly like a
>scam of some sort, and posting it to the list isn't exactly unreasonable -
>it's more like a "watch out for this scam" community service.
>
>However, we also have to remember that even being a well-known wouldn't make
>it right to send unsolicited bulk e-mail.
>
>So.
>
>It's unfortunate (for the people trying to organize the gift) that
>hackerwacker sent an alert to the list.  It's not unusual, though.  As
>service providers, many of us actively encourage customers to put a stop 
>to abuses of the mail system such as chain letters and other scams by 
>asking people to take active countermeasures.  I'd consider this to be 
>an example of just such a countermeasure.
>
>It seems fitting that spammers should not have their goals furthered by the
>act of spamming.  It would seem that this is precisely what happened in
>this case.
>
>I'll further note that I did receive a copy of the spam in question.  While
>I did not choose to complain to the relevant sites about it, or to post a
>message to the mailing list, the Boulder Pledge is certainly applicable -
>I will not be contributing towards a gift effort that spammed.
>
>... JG
>  
>

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