[Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960 vs 7905

Tue Mar 23 16:05:46 MST 2004

The spare phones I believe are exactly that, they are SPARE phones.

You still need to buy a software license before you are allowed to run
SIP on the Cisco phones. Our Cisco supplier sells SIP and H323 licenses
at the same price as the call manager licenses.

The phone will still come with a skinny image as that is how Cisco ship
them, but you can then legally apply a SIP image to your phone.

There seems to be a perception amongst a lot of people that just because
you have a phone you are allowed to run what ever image you like on it,
this is simply not the case. Each phone must have a software license.

Regards,
	Matthew Enger
	m.enger at xi.com.au

On Wed, 2004-03-24 at 09:07, Joe Dennick wrote:
> I just bought about 20 new Cisco 7960s for $350 (USD).  I selected the "spare"
> option because that doesn't come with a license.  The license grants that phone
> a software license to connect to Cisco's CallManager IP Telephone system. 
> Since we're using the Asterisk PBX, we don't have to worry about any other
> licensing.
> 
> When you first purchase the phones, however, they'll be configured for Cisco's
> CallManager, NOT SIP.  You'll have to set up a TFTP server to upgrade the
> phones to the SIP firmware.  There are documents on Cisco's site that fully
> explain the process.  Although the process seems rough at first, once you've
> got it set up, it runs really well and quick.
> These are not the cheapest phones on the market, but after playing with several
> different types of SIP phones, I beleive the Cisco is the best.
> 
> Good luck; and have fun!
> 
> Quoting Lars Fredriksson <lars at fredriksson.net>:
> 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I'm also going to buy an Cisco phone for testing with * - and my question is
> > which one?
> > For the 7960 for example I have the following "packages" to select in
> > between:
> > 
> > Cisco IP Phone 7960G, Global, Spare
> > Cisco IP Phone 7960G Global
> > 7960 IP Phone With One CallManager Express Station
> > 7960 IP Phone with one Station User License
> > 
> > The same "packages" are available for the other models also.
> > 
> > Is there anyone that can explain the differences between the packages to me,
> > I think the best would be to get an with a SIP image directly (as I've
> > understood that it wotks best with *) but that isn't possible maybe?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for any advice!
> > 
> > Best regards, Lars Fredriksson
> > 
> > ---
> > Lars Fredriksson
> > Ockelbo, Sweden
> > 
> > mailto:lars at fredriksson.net
> > http://www.fredriksson.net/
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
> > > [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of David Croft
> > > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 9:16 PM
> > > To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960 vs 7905
> > >
> > >
> > > If you look at
> > > http://www.cisco.com/image/jpeg/en/us/guest/products/ps379/c1122/c
> > > dccont_0900aecd800add13.jpg
> > > you'll see the screens on the 7905/7912 (bottom left two) are
> > > substantially smaller than the 7940/7960 (top right three). So for a
> > > similar pixel size (if that is the case) the resolution is higher. By
> > > the way, the 7940/60 at least use a proportional font. It is my
> > > understanding that the 7905/12 have a smaller screen as they cannot
> > > display XML services and do not have line appearances.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > Scott Laird wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 22, 2004, at 10:48 AM, Walker Haddock wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 10:16:24AM -0800, Scott Laird wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Can someone with a 7905 jump in?  The wiki says that the
> > > display on  the
> > > >>> 7905 is higher resolution then the 7960, but doesn't give any details.
> > > >>> How many lines of text does it show, and does it use a 1-line
> > > or  2-line
> > > >>> format for directory entries?  I'd like to order a phone
> > > today, but  I'd
> > > >>> like a bit more information first.
> > > >>
> > > >> I just went and dug around www.cisco.com.  Their `data sheets` for
> > > >> the  7905G do not even give that information.  There may be some more
> > > >> detailed technical documents on their site.  Take a look.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With Google's help, I tracked down a Powerpoint presentation that says
> > > > that the 7905 is 192x64 pixels, and the 7960 is 23x9 characters.
> > > > Assuming an 8x8 character matrix, the 7905 should be 24x8.  I'm not
> > > > sure how you can call that "even higher resolution" then the 7960
> > > > (http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?
> > > > page=Asterisk%20phone%20cisco%2079xx).  Maybe the 7905's layout
> > > is more
> > > > compact?
> > > >
> > > > At this point, I think I've pretty much exhausted what Google and
> > > > Cisco.com have to say on the topic.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
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