[Asterisk-Users] Re: Compiling Asterisk with G.723.1

Steve Underwood steveu at coppice.org
Thu Jun 10 07:07:38 MST 2004


Randy Ackers wrote:

>> Tony Hoyle wrote:
>
>
>> Steve Underwood wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> I didn't say one patent covered all the world. I said the patents on 
>>> codecs exist all over the >>world. WIPO is simplifying this a bit, 
>>> but its still pretty expensive to get a patent everywhere. I >>know 
>>> of no country where the key aspects of a codec cannot be patented.
>>>
>>> Outside the US you can't patent software or algorythms, and a codec 
>>> is (usually) both of these, >>therefore not patentable outside the 
>>> US.  This is what allows things like the xvid project to exist, 
>>> >>for example, which breaks several US patents...  Fraunhoffer 
>>> somehow apparently managed to >>get some in europe but it was never 
>>> decided whether they were valid or not (commonly it is >>thought 
>>> that they'd have failed under legal challenge as the wording of EU 
>>> patent law is very >>clear).
>>
>
>>> Try looking up the EU patents related to any of the ETSI codecs, 
>>> like GSM EFR, half rate, AMR, >>etc. If Fraunhoffer's patents can be 
>>> challenged, they must have screwed up the way they >>worded them.
>>
>
> ===========
> Hello,
>
> I think that the discussion has strayed from its original subject: the 
> subject is WHERE is the library for the G723.1 codec in Asterisk.
>
> There are many people/companies/organizations who need G723.1. 
> Although apparently it's not a problem using a patented codec like 
> G723.1 outside of the USA, most of us would gladly pay a reasonable 
> per-channel fee for it's usage, like in the case of the G729 which 
> Digium offers.
>
> But since it is not available in this manner, I think it's only fair 
> to provide the source code for compilation/usage at least outside of 
> the US.
>
> I know that quite a few Asterisk users have compiled G723.1 in their 
> box. Like many others, I would like to have this code and be able to 
> compile it in my box.
>
> In fact, many of us would even pay a reasonable sum in order to have 
> the code, if the people who already have it & use it in their boxes 
> are not willing to share for free.
>
> Regards,
> Randy Ackers.

We are hardly straying from the topic. The problem is it *not* legal to 
use this thing in the EU, or most other places, regardless of people 
trying to twist things around so they can say it is.

Regards,
Steve





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