[Asterisk-Users] Programming an unlocked ADSI phone?

[Jayson Vantuyl]

On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 12:51:09PM -0700, Ken Godee wrote:
> Darren Nickerson wrote:
> >That worked a treat - thanks! Comedian Mail is now able to download to the
> >handset and there's a lot more functionality now.
> >
> >-d
> 
> I'd be interested in knowing if once you try to use Comedian mail
> softkeys if the 480 keypad goes dead?
I have this problem with the PT390s.

Do you have a problem during the login process or does your problem come
later when trying certain menus?

If it occurs during login, it is probably the same problem I used to
have.  It stems from Comedian not putting the ADSI phone back into Voice
Mode.  It is not clear to me if this should be necessary for you to hit
the buttons (although the Aastras seem to require it).

I've fixed it in my source and submitted a patch, but no one can seem to
confirm what the spec says should be correct (and the spec costs about
$2,000, so I can't afford to buy it).

> Mine and several others reported same, which makes it useless, a shame 
> to, I like the 480's ADSI function and haven't had a whole lot of time 
> to look into it.

It can be made to work.  Let me round off the rough edges of my patch
and I'll send it to you (and put it in the bugtracker again).  If I
recall, I tried to get it merged in but no one could test it with other
phones to see if it broke them.  Can anyone out there test a modified
patch to make sure it works for, say, the Telcordia phones and the like?

At this point, we seem to have only mediocre support for ADSI (you'll
have problems uploading large scripts as ADSIprog seems to have problems
splitting up large functions during upload).  Since the industry really
never intended for us to use it in this way, makes it really expensive
to implement it, and is very paranoid about supporting us in any way, I
suspect it may stay this way for a while.

To be sure, all of my contacts with Aastra and the like consist of "We
make a compliant phone.  It's been certified.  Buy the spec and embrace
it."  Mostly assertion that the phone has been certified so it must be
flawless and an insistence that I buy the spec and figure it out for
myself.  It took me three months to get a part number so I could order a
phone that they would give me the code for.  Even then, it was
interesting that it was an oddball pre-programmed phone for some PBX
system similar to us called SpheriCall.  I could only get that after
Aastra mistakenly routed me to Sayson (sayson.com) who they appear to
have offloaded the job of preprogramming their phones for end-users.

At any rate, I assure you that with a lot of work, I've made the Aastras
work with Comedian (and I could probably do so for you if you were
really, really nice or offered heaps of cash).  The problem I have not
been able to solve has been with setting the phone up to operate with a
default program.  It seems like it should be simple to set up a program
for when it's idle, when it's ringing, buttons for simple call functions
and the like.  It's not.  The self-load slot requires an idle time of
like 5 seconds before it kicks in.  Simply hanging up the phone and
immediately picking it up causes it to fall back into default mode where
your program isn't doing anything.

Frustratingly, the SpheriCall program that my phones come with have
SOLVED this problem.  I cannot, however, figure out how to do it with
ours.  I've come very close to buying some third-party programming
software (Black Dolphin something) just to program them.  The brochure
actually mentions support for the "special features" of Aastra
PowerTouches.  That doesn't really instill faith in me, though.

Good luck,

Jayson