[Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

John Brown (CV) jmbrown at chagresventures.com
Thu Oct 2 13:23:38 MST 2003


Hmm, impartial, well I sell them but I'll try :) :)

Bad things:
Base color, white... new colors coming soon
Call waiting ring is a bit annoying
The normal ring is really annoying, they are changing this

good things:
they work
cheap
easy to setup
sound quality very good
multi codec selection


just make sure you are running 1.0.3.81 or NEWER

Yes they support callerID and call waiting callerID

transfer works.  push the button dial the number


hope this helps.  its not flowery because I don't want to
sound like a sales man :)

john brown, ceo
chagres technologies, inc
http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html


On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:08:58PM -0400, Jon Pounder wrote:
> Can someone post their experiences with these phones together with 
> asterisk, and give an impartial listing of what features they find 
> indispensible, and others that are a pain to have missing.
> 
> What codec configurations do people use these phones in currently with 
> asterisk ?
> 
> Can someone clarify the transfer questions, and any other related topics as 
> well please. For example do they support callwaiting callerid ? (either in 
> or out of band in conjunction with asterisk ?)
> 
> 
> At 10:52 AM 10/2/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >Grandstream 102D  won't be available until December,
> >at the earliest.
> >
> >I have 101's in stock now and can ship same day as
> >the order is funded.
> >
> >102 (not the D model) are on backorder and I expect
> >inventory by the end of next week.
> >
> >Transfering and other functions are really going to be
> >a matter of what your SIP server does, feature wise.
> >
> >GAPS is not free.  It starts at $3000 and goes up to 18,000
> >
> >We have built our own system that we use internally to
> >configure phones for our customers.
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:14:42PM -0400, costas  wrote:
> > > Thanks! Do you have the 102D. Thats what started this.
> > > How fast can you ship any of the phones?
> > >
> > > Also I have question on the phones.
> > >
> > > 1) If you have 2 callers can you transfer  one of them, or you can only 
> > transfer if you have the second line available?
> > >
> > > 2) Automated Provisioning System (GAPS). Free?
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > From: " John Brown (CV)" <jmbrown at chagresventures.com>
> > > Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > > Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:06:00 -0600
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all
> > > >
> > > >We do sell the phones.
> > > >
> > > >http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html
> > > >
> > > >and digium cards
> > > >
> > > >http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html
> > > >
> > > >plus new things real soon :)
> > > >
> > > >and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
> > > >and I'll try like crazy to fix it.
> > > >
> > > >john brown, ceo
> > > >chagres technologies, inc
> > > >
> > > >ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
> > > >got its name from.  I used to live there ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
> > > >> Josh,
> > > >>
> > > >> Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to 
> > mention the sale of any Grandstream phones ....
> > > >>
> > > >> Adam
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Josh Roberson
> > > >> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > > >> Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
> > > >> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
> > > >>
> > > >> Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
> > > >> (direct copy/paste from auction)
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Begin Copy/Paste-----
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Flash Based OS
> > > >>
> > > >> Easy to install and manage,
> > > >> Cost effective,
> > > >> Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
> > > >> Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
> > > >>
> > > >> Big information and management LCD blue back light
> > > >> User friendly keypad
> > > >> Universal AC/DC adapter
> > > >> Ergonomic design
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 25-button keypad
> > > >> 12-digit caller ID LCD
> > > >> Universal Switching Power Adaptor
> > > >> Input: 100-240VAC
> > > >> Output: +5VDC, 400mA,
> > > >>  1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
> > > >> 2.UL/CE/FCC
> > > >> 3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix)
> > > >>
> > > >> Web-Based Management
> > > >>
> > > >> TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support
> > > >>
> > > >> Free Flash Firmware update
> > > >>
> > > >> No User Licenses
> > > >>
> > > >> System Restart/ Shutdown
> > > >>
> > > >> Password Access control
> > > >>
> > > >> 1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface)
> > > >>
> > > >> Support STUN and SIMPLE extension
> > > >>
> > > >> Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  DSP technology for the best voice quality
> > > >>
> > > >> Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
> > > >> (alaw
> > > >> and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D)
> > > >>
> > > >> In and out-off-band DTMF
> > > >>
> > > >> Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
> > > >> speakerphone,
> > > >> redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator
> > > >>
> > > >> Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
> > > >> DiffServ, MPLS)
> > > >>
> > > >> Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP
> > > >>
> > > >> Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
> > > >> (Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
> > > >> (Automatic Gain
> > > >> Control)
> > > >>
> > > >> -----End Copy/Paste-----
> > > >>
> > > >> Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
> > > >> 102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
> > > >> Grandstream's product brochure.
> > > >>
> > > >> Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
> > > >> with it.. I will tell you this though:
> > > >>
> > > >> Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
> > > >> asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
> > > >>
> > > >> </rant>
> > > >>
> > > >> --------------------------
> > > >> Josh Roberson
> > > >> Indigent Networks
> > > >> 1.877.677.9647 x1
> > > >> twisted at indigent.sytes.net
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
> > > >> [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of costas
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
> > > >> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
> > > >>
> > > >> I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you look
> > > >> at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
> > > >> way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price I
> > > >> thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
> > > >> year.
> > > >>
> > > >> I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed the
> > > >> Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
> > > >> phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even
> > > >> out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and
> > > >> they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel my
> > > >> bid after telling me what a bad person I am for wasting his time.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > >> From: Andrew Kohlsmith <akohlsmith-asterisk at benshaw.com>
> > > >> Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
> > > >> Date:  Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:32:51 -0400
> > > >>
> > > >> >> Some guy on eBay is trying to sell the Grandstream Budgetone Phone
> > > >> 101 as
> > > >> >> the 102D. And to make matters worse he starts the bid at $90.00
> > > >> Beware.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >There's no need to beware -- anyone who doesn't shop around deserves to
> > > >> get
> > > >> >suckered.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Regards,
> > > >> >Andrew
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> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Costas Menico
> > > >> Meezon Software Corp
> > > >> 201-224-8111
> > > >> costas at meezon.com
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