[Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.

costas costas at meezon.com
Thu Oct 2 09:14:42 MST 2003


Thanks! Do you have the 102D. Thats what started this.
How fast can you ship any of the phones?

Also I have question on the phones.

1) If you have 2 callers can you transfer  one of them, or you can only transfer if you have the second line available?

2) Automated Provisioning System (GAPS). Free?


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: " John Brown (CV)" <jmbrown at chagresventures.com>
Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Date:  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:06:00 -0600

>
>Hi Josh, Costas, Adam, et all
>
>We do sell the phones.
>
>http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/phones.html
>
>and digium cards
>
>http://www.chagres.net/products/voip/cards.html 
>
>plus new things real soon :)
>
>and if anyone ever has a problem, go yell at me
>and I'll try like crazy to fix it.
>
>john brown, ceo
>chagres technologies, inc
>
>ps:  Chagres.com (Chagres River) is where our company
>got its name from.  I used to live there ;)
>
>
>On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Low, Adam wrote:
>> Josh,
>> 
>> Pls can you confirm that URL, www.chagres.com doesn't seem to mention the sale of any Grandstream phones ....
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Josh Roberson
>> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>> Sent: 02/10/03 13:04
>> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
>> 
>> Actually, had you taken the time to READ the auction details, He says
>> (direct copy/paste from auction)
>> 
>> -----Begin Copy/Paste-----
>> 
>> 
>> Flash Based OS
>> 
>> Easy to install and manage,
>> Cost effective,
>> Easy to use - Friendly GUI for 1st time user,
>> Easy to learn - User's guide and on-line tutorial
>> 
>> Big information and management LCD blue back light 
>> User friendly keypad 
>> Universal AC/DC adapter
>> Ergonomic design
>>  
>>  
>>   
>>  
>> 25-button keypad 
>> 12-digit caller ID LCD 
>> Universal Switching Power Adaptor 
>> Input: 100-240VAC 
>> Output: +5VDC, 400mA, 
>>  1. Auto-sensing 10/100 Base-TX Ethernet Port
>> 2.UL/CE/FCC
>> 3.Power Supply : Universal 90 ~ 264V
>>   
>> 
>> Support all major Network Operating Systems (Windows, MAC, Linux/Unix) 
>> 
>> Web-Based Management 
>> 
>> TCP/IP Configuration with DHCP support 
>> 
>> Free Flash Firmware update 
>> 
>> No User Licenses 
>> 
>> System Restart/ Shutdown 
>> 
>> Password Access control 
>> 
>> 1 x 10/100Mbps Ethernet Port (RJ-45 Interface) 
>> 
>> Support STUN and SIMPLE extension 
>> 
>> Interoperable with 3d parties Proxy, Registrar and gateway products 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  DSP technology for the best voice quality 
>> 
>> Support popular vocoders including G.723.1 (5.3K/6.3K), G.729A/B, G.711
>> (alaw 
>> and u-law), G.726 (40K/32K/24K/16K), as well as G.728 (Model 102D) 
>> 
>> In and out-off-band DTMF 
>> 
>> Support 3-way conferencing (Model 102D), full duplex hands-free
>> speakerphone, 
>> redial, call log, volume control, voice mail with indicator 
>> 
>> Support for Layer 2 (802.1Q VLAN, 802.1p) and Layer 3 QoS (ToS,
>> DiffServ, MPLS) 
>> 
>> Remote software upgrade capability via TFTP 
>> 
>> Support Silence Suppression, VAD (Voice Activity Detection), CNG
>> (Comfort Noise Generation), Line Echo Cancellation (G.168), and AGC
>> (Automatic Gain 
>> Control) 
>> 
>> -----End Copy/Paste-----
>> 
>> Nowhere does he make the claims you're stating.  He DOES, have (Model
>> 102D) in one of the descriptions, but that is a direct quote from
>> Grandstream's product brochure.  
>> 
>> Also, this phone *IS* out on the market.. I own one, and I'm quite happy
>> with it.. I will tell you this though:
>> 
>> Go order one from Chagres (http://www.chagres.com).   They are an
>> asterisk supporter/user on this list, and the price is MUCH better. ;)
>> 
>> </rant>
>> 
>> --------------------------
>> Josh Roberson
>> Indigent Networks
>> 1.877.677.9647 x1
>> twisted at indigent.sytes.net
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of costas 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:50 AM
>> To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] eBay Sip Phone Scam.
>> 
>> I did shop around. Nowhere does he say the phone is the 101. If you look
>> at his ad he says the phone has 102D features and has 16x2 lines and 3
>> way conference. The starting price was $90. A reasonable opening price I
>> thought. He also does not say the phone is not available until end of
>> year.
>> 
>> I only called Grandstream to find out some info on it after I placed the
>> Bid. In a way Grandstream is also at fault. Nowhere do they say the
>> phone is not available. I was suprised when they told me it wasnt even
>> out.  When I sent a message to this thief, he said its for the 101 and
>> they are hard to get. Thats why he jacked up the price. He did cancel my
>> bid after telling me what a bad person I am for wasting his time.
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: Andrew Kohlsmith <akohlsmith-asterisk at benshaw.com>
>> Reply-To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
>> Date:  Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:32:51 -0400
>> 
>> >> Some guy on eBay is trying to sell the Grandstream Budgetone Phone
>> 101 as
>> >> the 102D. And to make matters worse he starts the bid at $90.00
>> Beware.
>> >
>> >There's no need to beware -- anyone who doesn't shop around deserves to
>> get 
>> >suckered.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Andrew
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>> >Asterisk-Users at lists.digium.com
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