OWNED! RE: [Asterisk-Users] H.323 support is distrubuted with Asterisk (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] chan_oh323.so: Segmentation Fault)

[Jamie Carl]

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Guyz,

I've just been reading all this crap that's been going on and I jave to
say, grow up guys.  This isn't kindergarden and we're all suppose to be
sharing information here, not bickering over who owns what and wants
credit for that.  If you want credit and/or money for your work  them GO
WORK FOR MICROSOFT!!! and move as far away from the open source movement
as you can.  

Jeremey has done the right thing here and I have to stand by him.  As he
stated, chan_oh323 has no legal copyright and was released as open
source.  GNU GPL states that you must give credit to the creators of any
source that you use or reference, which Jeremy has done.

So what's the problem???   If you don't want people using your code, or
trying to make it better, don't friggen release it as open source!!!!
Simple as that!

As for the technical side of things, Michael mentioned that Jeremy never
submitted any patches or fixes and that he had merely 'refaced' the
code.  What utter bullshit. Sorry, but I remember Jeremy assisting me
with getting chan_h323 working on my system using a 3rd party gateway
and some Vison Video Phones.  I was pretty much getting changes made on
the fly and he ended up making it work great.  Better than chan_oh323,
which didn't compile properly.  So why should Jeremy push his H323
driver over chan_oh323?  It's clearly better.

Well, that's my 2 cents.  Jezz, don't let them get ya down, there are
those of us out here that love ya work.  And Michael, you might want to
look up 'Open' in the dictionary.

Peace.

Regards,

Jamie Carl
Email:	me at jazz-inc.net
PH:		+61-414-365-466

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy McNamara [mailto:jj at indie.org]
Sent: Friday, 23 May 2003 4:11 AM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] H.323 support is distrubuted with Asterisk
(was Re: [Asterisk-Users] chan_oh323.so: Segmentation Fault)


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This is futile.. I used asterisk-oh323 as a roadmap, I did not FORK your

channel driver. The process we went through changed the entire logic and

implementation, thus in my lawyer's mind chan_h23 is a totally separate 
work not requiring any such copyright notices. I gave you credit where I

felt credit was due.  Remember, I tried to work with you in the beaning,

but it was YOU that were unwilling to let others better your driver, so 
by the request of MANY people in this community, I decided to create my 
own H.323 channel driver.


Also, I wast just informed by another Asterisk user (who wanted to be 
left nameless) that asterisk-oh323 mysteriously added new 'features' and

many little things got better AFTER chan_h323 came out.  Granted this is

just one persons private comment to me, but why would this person make 
these comments if they weren't true, when he just wants to terminate 
H.323 calls the best way he can?


Lastly, I just had my lawyer contact the US Copyright office and they 
have no listing of asterisk-oh323 as being copyrighted.


'nuff said.. I will not respond to any further discussion on this topic.


Jeremy McNamara






Michael Manousos wrote:

> Jeremy McNamara wrote:
>
>> Michael Manousos wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As a "thanks" to the authors of the *original* asterisk H.323
channel
>>> driver, McNamara removed all the copyright notices from the source
>>> files.
>>>
>>> Well done! Great job!
>>>
>>> Michael.
>>>
>>
>> You need to verify your facts before spouting ABSOLUTE PURE GARBAGE:
>>
>> *
>> * h323wrap.h
>> *
>> * OpenH323 Channel Driver for ASTERISK PBX.
>> *            By Jeremy McNamara
>> *                      For The NuFone Network
>> *
>> * This code has been derived from code created by
>> *        Michael Manousos and Mark Spencer
>>             ^^^^^^^^^^^  WTF IS THAT?
>
>
> First of all, this is more than obvious, that
> THIS IS NOT A COPYRIGHT NOTICE.
>
> Your code is clearly derived from our copyrighted BUT free (GPL)
> code. We don't have any objections regarding changing, improving
> or even forking our code, but you should have maintained the
> original copyright.
>
> Furthermore, you cannot discourage people from using
> asterisk-oh323 while promoting your derived and misappropriated
> version, based only on the fact that yours is included
> in the main Asterisk source tree.
>
>>
>> Then goto  http://asterisk.nufone.net/  and read that page, then go 
>> read the google cache for that page, so you cannot say I just changed

>> it.
>>
>>
>> Jeremy McNamara
>>
>>
>
> Michael.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
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