[Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe

[Michiel Betel]

<sigh>.... 

And all I actually did was ask if anybody else was interested to share costs
of the european certification of the (note!) digium cards. Haven't seen any
replys on that :-(

I'll call digium on Monday to discuss on how to proceed....

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-admin at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Gregg Lebovitz
Sent: zondag 6 april 2003 0:03
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe


dwayne,


I didn't interpret Tilgman's email as instigating this kind of response. You
may be smart, but I really don't buy any of your arguments. I hope someone
at your company has better business/PR sense than you. Otherwise, you are
doomed.

Gregg 

On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 15:00, d hinton wrote:
> to tilghman:
> "Then contribute already.  Don't troll the list"
> you bozoo, before you call someone a troll you should prob read the 
> post. and if that's you opinion arfter that then fine, so be it. but 
> it's always some punk, who got bullied on as a kid that hides behind 
> the internet and slings pot-shots ;-( "And don't  volunteer to sell 
> Digium's cards at a price that severely undercuts their product (and 
> revenue and development)"
> 
> THESE ARE NOT DIGIUMS CARDS!!!! they are GPL'ed released by the zapata
> project: http://zapatatelephony.org try reading and learning before 
> you write. and further more i never said that i would sell to the 
> public, just that we COULD make these cards and sell them for $850 and 
> still turn a profit. it was a hint to digium. in fact, the most 
> expensive part only cost $100.00 USD. see 
> http://www.maxim-ic.com/index.cfm
> 
> "If you can't afford $1500 for a card, you jolly well aren't going to 
> be able to afford a T1 line anyway, so having the card would be 
> completely irrelevant" at the price digium charges for the CARDS, they 
> would cost the most of the whole project. for example: i can get a 
> local T1 for ~$250/month with 100 DID's for $56 dollars extra. and a 
> FULL T1 backbone for $395/month see: 
> http://www.theplanet.com/solutions/access.php
> in these hard eco times we should ALL be good shepards of our money.
> 
> ALSO for all of you who keep comparing the zapata cards to intel's 
> dialogic cards please read up on the subject first, it's like 
> comparing apples and oranges. the best reason to chose the zapata 
> IMHO, is the fact that their cheap good cards that you can buy (or 
> make) alot of them and provide redundancy and at lot of coverage area 
> because of the low upfront cost. THANK GOD FOR THE GPL MOVEMENT.
> 
> TO MARK
> thanks for the offer but, yes we are to far into the making our own 
> process, sorry. dwayne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tilghman Lesher" <tilghman at mail.jeffandtilghman.com>
> To: <asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CE certification for Europe
> 
> 
> > On Saturday 05 April 2003 12:03, d hinton wrote:
> > > look, i like this project, and hope to contribute to it in the 
> > > near future,
> >
> > Then contribute already.  Don't troll the list.  And don't volunteer 
> > to sell Digium's cards at a price that severely undercuts their 
> > product (and revenue and development), as the GNU telephony movement 
> > greatly benefits from Digium's continued development and resources 
> > (including this list).
> >
> > > but i just believe that making the cards more
> > > affordable ads more value,
> >
> > It's already more affordable than any other telephony
> > card.  The value is undisputed by everyone here, except
> > for you.
> >
> > > by allowing more people to be able
> > > to afford to develope on this cards,
> >
> > If you can't afford $1500 for a card, you jolly well aren't going to 
> > be able to afford a T1 line anyway, so having the card would be 
> > completely irrelevant.
> >
> > > and for the global GPL
> > > telephony movement to continue to grow.
> >
> > It's growing.  Buy from Digium and it'll grow some more.
> >
> > > i hope i didn't offend
> >
> > Too late.
> >
> > -Tilghman
> >
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