<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:12 AM Henning Westerholt <<a href="mailto:hw@gilawa.com" target="_blank">hw@gilawa.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hello,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">honestly, I don’t understand the point of this discussion anymore. Probably all the people that somehow are interested in keeping the mailing list spoke up by now. Almost all were in
favour of keeping the list. Some people also offered help in hosting the list in the future.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>More people have spoken up after I nudged in a previous post. Their input is also welcome, including how they use the list, because that information is also useful in other ways. For example some people were unaware that you could even watch repos on GitHub and have sent me thanks for that information. That's a data point so we can make it clearer in other areas that it can be done for users to be aware of things outside of a mailing list for those who choose it.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="DE"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">If it’s your decision as asterisk project manager to shut down this list, then just do it. If the asterisk project does not care about the opinion of their independent contributors and
developers in this matter to save some operations costs, that is unfortunate but understandable. In the end it shows the value of this open-source community for the project. Everyone must then decide if moving to a proprietary communication solution is acceptable.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The <a href="http://lists.digium.com" target="_blank">lists.digium.com</a> instance as it exists now will shut down. Its history and archive will remain available. The mailman instance is not in a state where upgrading or migrating it is feasible. Those are the facts. I have received private communication from an individual who attempted to do so on their own instance in a similar state and was unable to, and they stated that they were aware others had tried with most being failures.</div><div><br></div><div>Based on the community feedback from those using the list I have chosen to continue through a new mailing list on a hosted solution, thus one will continue to exist. I was hoping to have a plan and also check over aspects that are indirectly involved (for example the release process and how it would get emails to such a thing in a manner that works as well as check with legal about personal information involving an outside vendor) before saying so (and also collect more information on usage), but none of that is done as of yet. I don't know the full details yet but will keep this mailing list updated until such time as we're ready with the details.</div><div><br></div></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><font color="#073763">Joshua C. Colp</font></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><font color="#073763">Asterisk Project Lead</font></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><font color="#073763">Sangoma Technologies</font></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><font color="#073763">Check us out at <a href="http://www.sangoma.com" target="_blank">www.sangoma.com</a> and <a href="http://www.asterisk.org" target="_blank">www.asterisk.org</a></font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>