<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 12:45 PM Corey Farrell <<a href="mailto:git@cfware.com">git@cfware.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Updating pjproject does take less time/effort than maintaining a fork <br>
for the many years of an LTS release. That reduced effort isn't just <br>
free time to developers, the time is instead spent working on <br>
enhancements and bug fixes. Maintaining a fork would prevent users from <br>
getting important upstream bug fixes and would introduce risk of <br>
regressions caused by the fork itself. So my vote is that pjsip version <br>
bumps should not be held back. I'm also not in favor of creating <br>
separate releases for pjsip version bumps, this takes time that I feel <br>
can/should be spent on other tasks.<br>
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One thing I think Asterisk can improve is to always make sure that any <br>
pjsip version bump is prominently mentioned in release notes, probably a <br>
note in the CHANGES and/or UPGRADE files. This would let people who use <br>
bundled pjproject of potentially major changes. It would also tell <br>
users of non-bundled pjproject that they should upgrade their own <br>
libraries as the older version is no longer tested.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think we normally do that unless we missed one by accident.</div><div>I also do a blog post with a title like 'PJproject x.x qualified for use by Asterisk"</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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On 9/16/19 1:06 PM, Michael Maier wrote:<br>
> On 15.09.19 at 21:19 Joshua C. Colp wrote:<br>
>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, at 2:21 AM, Michael Maier wrote:<br>
>>> BTW: I'm not really happy with the fact, that an existing LTS / stable version gets a new pjsip version "on the fly". From my point of view, this should have been<br>
>>> done during a normal development cycle and not during a stable phase.<br>
>> Since support for bundled PJSIP we've actively tried to keep up to date, so that we don't end up managing a fork and backporting a lot of patches. This has worked well<br>
>> for us and we haven't seen any problems - in fact we've gained some stability at times.<br>
> Chance - there's always a first time :-)<br>
> BTW: I like the bundling of pjsip!<br>
><br>
>> If this is a problem in PJSIP this would be the first time we've encountered a<br>
>> regression. If people feel that we should instead lock versions then this is certainly something we can discuss. What do others think?<br>
> From a developers perspective, it's for sure better to do it as you do it like now. From a users / customers perspective, it's most probably the other way round. I don't<br>
> want to have any deep changes during a LTS version (that's exactly why I'm using LTS versions). The new pjsip release should have been put to a new asterisk release, too.<br>
> Asterisk 16.x was thoroughly tested and released on base of pjsip 4.8. Anybody who wants new pjsip 4.9 should consider using new Asterisk version, too.<br>
><br>
> At least, I would expect a severe distinction by using a dedicated minor version (without any own asterisk changes) to detect more easily potential pjsip regressions.<br>
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> Thanks<br>
> Michael<br>
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