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    On 12/22/2017 10:22 AM, George Joseph wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 1:44 PM,
            Corey Farrell <span dir="ltr"><<a
                href="mailto:git@cfware.com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">git@cfware.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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                <p>George asked that I post some scenarios where this
                  would be useful.<br>
                </p>
                1. You are about to create updated asterisk package and
                want to quickly scan the changes to 13 since latest
                13.x.0 release to see if anything is a 'must patch' for
                your deployments.  You can use 'tig' to review changes
                for critical fixes until you reach the tag '13.x.0-rc1'
                (which you can see in the list because the tag was
                merged). </div>
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            <div>I didn't even know about tig.  There's always something
              to learn about the git ecosystem. :)</div>
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I know the end result can be
                accomplished by other means, but not as easily.<br>
                <p>2. You've created an automated test to try finding a
                  performance regression.  The test runs asterisk under
                  a profiler and stores results.  Each revision you test
                  needs a new file to store results - 'git describe'
                  would provide an excellent filename that is unique per
                  revision.</p>
                <p>One thing I'm not sure about is if we should only
                  merge rc1 tags or if we should merge all new release
                  tags.  At first all release tags seem reasonable, but
                  the order of tags other than rc1 would be off.  rc1 is
                  special because it would be merged back to mainline
                  before anything else.  Even 13.x.0 does not get cut
                  until after other commits are merged to 13, so if we
                  merged 13.19.0 to 13, the commits made since
                  13.19.0-rc1 would appear out of order (before
                  13.19.0).  The difference between rc1 and final
                  release is always small, but the number of new commits
                  to mainline between that time can be quite large.<br>
                </p>
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            <div>So we would merge rc1's back to mainline but how about
              the point releases?</div>
            <div>13.19.0-rc1</div>
            <div>13.19.1  ??</div>
            <div>13.19.2  ??</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>13.18-cert1-rc1</div>
            <div>13.18-cert2 ??<br>
            </div>
            <div>13.18-cert3 ??<br>
            </div>
          </div>
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    <br>
    Just to be clear certified branches would be untouched by this
    proposal.  Look at 'git log certified/13.13-cert9' - you will see
    the previous tagged releases in the certified/13.13 release series.<br>
    <br>
    I think we should not do anything different with the point releases
    (including 13.19.0) because of the commit order.  Think about when
    13.18.4 were released.  If we merged it to 13 it would be in the
    wrong place on 'git log 13'.  Easily 200 non-merge commits would
    appear after the 13.18.4 tag in the 13 branch, when in fact they are
    not part of the 13.18.4 tag.  My hope is that we can provide
    additional information, but only if the information is accurate.<br>
    <br>
    One last detail I don't know exactly how we deal with new major
    releases (ie 16.0.0).  If I remember correctly we will release
    16.0.0-beta1, but I don't remember if that is the start of the 16.0
    branch or if 16.0 starts with rc1.  However it works my current
    proposal would be to merge the first commit of 16.0 back to 16.<br>
    <br>
    Tzafrir I haven't heard from you since I joined your new thread.  If
    we were to merge the rc1's back to mainline so that mainline knew
    about the "split point", would this satisfy your request?  Also was
    your intent to say "we should do this first before deleting minor
    branches"?  Do you object if we proceed with removal of minor
    branches or does your request need to be completed first?<br>
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                      class="gmail-m_6595350080864077547m_2952676372708742521moz-cite-prefix">On
                      12/21/2017 10:45 AM, Corey Farrell wrote:<br>
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                    <blockquote type="cite"> I just read `git help
                      merge` again and I think the solution is 'git
                      checkout 13 && git merge --strategy ours
                      13.19.0-rc1'.  This would effectively tell git
                      that '13' already contains 13.19.0-rc1, but
                      without actually trying to pull any changes to
                      13.  This merge would be the final step of
                      mkrelease.py.<br>
                      <br>
                      No changes will be needed to our handling of
                      '.lastclean', please ignore those comments as I
                      was wrong.<br>
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                        12/21/2017 08:19 AM, George Joseph wrote:<br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 20,
                              2017 at 3:14 PM, Corey Farrell <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a
                                  href="mailto:git@cfware.com"
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                              wrote:<br>
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                                  <p>One thing that might improve this
                                    is if releases were merged back to
                                    the major branch.  Currently the
                                    commit "Update for 13.19.0-rc1" is
                                    on the 13.19 branch and tagged as
                                    13.19.0-rc1.  I believe that if we
                                    added 'git checkout 13 &&
                                    git merge 13.19.0-rc1' we would get
                                    better information from 'git
                                    describe 13' and tags would appear
                                    in 'git log 13 --oneline'.  This
                                    would continue working even after we
                                    delete the minor branches.<br>
                                  </p>
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                              <div>Sounds reasonable.</div>
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                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>As a test I just ran 'git merge
                                    13.18.4' from the current 13
                                    branch.  The merge did have 2
                                    conflicts but that's because 13.18
                                    was branched so long ago and a
                                    couple files that were modified in
                                    minor releases have since been
                                    modified again or deleted.  Then I
                                    ran 'git describe 13', it said
                                    '13.18.4-404-gd5d67bb1f4'.  This
                                    tells us that my local branch had
                                    about 404 commits (including merges)
                                    that are not part of 13.18.0-rc1
                                    (the point where 13.18 diverged from
                                    13 because 13.18.3 was not merged
                                    back).  Merging each tag as soon as
                                    it's created would make the results
                                    more accurate. and (almost always)
                                    eliminate merge conflicts.<br>
                                  </p>
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                              <div>"almost always" will be an issue
                                since it's the scripts that do the
                                work.  It's kinda frustrating already
                                when you're trying to get releases out
                                the door and something goes wrong with
                                the script.  What conditions do you
                                think might still cause merge conflicts?</div>
                              <div> <br>
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                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>The only wrinkle in this plan is
                                    that the '.lastclean' file is
                                    created on the releases but it's
                                    listed in .gitignore.  I think we
                                    might be able to just get rid of the
                                    .lastclean and .cleancount files. 
                                    This Makefile hack predates the use
                                    of SVN and I don't think it's
                                    necessary.  One thing it does do is
                                    try to enable the astdb2sqlite3
                                    utility, but Berkely DB was last
                                    used in Asterisk 1.8.  The default
                                    is for that utility to be enabled,
                                    that's enough.  In addition the
                                    mkrelease script actually copies
                                    .cleancount to .lastclean, I think
                                    that means it's disabled for
                                    releases.<br>
                                  </p>
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                              <div>These kind of things we can alter to
                                suite our needs so there shouldn't be an
                                issue.</div>
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                                        12/20/2017 12:58 PM, George
                                        Joseph wrote:<br>
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                                            <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                              Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 8:14
                                              AM, Tzafrir Cohen <span
                                                dir="ltr"><<a
                                                  href="mailto:tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com"
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                                              wrote:<br>
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class="gmail-m_6595350080864077547m_2952676372708742521m_8559998465513526041h5">On
                                                    Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at
                                                    07:50:03AM -0700,
                                                    George Joseph wrote:<br>
                                                    > On Wed, Dec 20,
                                                    2017 at 2:44 AM,
                                                    Tzafrir Cohen <<a
href="mailto:tzafrir.cohen@xorcom.com" target="_blank"
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                                                    > wrote:<br>
                                                    ><br>
                                                    > > Off-topic:<br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    > > On Tue,
                                                    Dec 19, 2017 at
                                                    01:50:03PM -0700,
                                                    George Joseph wrote:<br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    > > >
                                                    Thankfully we tag
                                                    EVERYTHING! :)<br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    > >
                                                    asterisk(13)$ git
                                                    describe<br>
                                                    > >
                                                    13.15.0-rc1-908-ge31e3b581b<br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    > >
                                                    asterisk(14)$ git
                                                    describe<br>
                                                    > > fatal: No
                                                    tags can describe
                                                    'fb18797ae09a685ec71101499fb1c<wbr>1c606b16397'.<br>
                                                    > > Try
                                                    --always, or create
                                                    some tags.<br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    > >
                                                    asterisk(15)$ git
                                                    describe<br>
                                                    > > fatal: No
                                                    tags can describe
                                                    'd312068ee93ff8ce97b464f3c2ff3<wbr>304e15cb3fe'.<br>
                                                    > > Try
                                                    --always, or create
                                                    some tags.<br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    > > I wasted
                                                    half an hour
                                                    yesterday trying to
                                                    find out why a build
                                                    sis not<br>
                                                    > > switch
                                                    from master to 13,
                                                    only to realize that
                                                    the name of the git<br>
                                                    > > branch in
                                                    the version string
                                                    is always "master".<br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    > > We tag
                                                    everything. But only
                                                    well after it was
                                                    branched from the
                                                    main<br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    > branch.<br>
                                                    > ><br>
                                                    ><br>
                                                    > I'm not
                                                    following you.<br>
                                                    ><br>
                                                    > We tag every
                                                    release...<br>
                                                    ><br>
                                                    > $ git checkout
                                                    13.18.4<br>
                                                    > HEAD is now at
                                                    f4644317b7... Update
                                                    for 13.18.4<br>
                                                    > $ git describe<br>
                                                    > 13.18.4<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
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                                                <span>> $ git
                                                  checkout 13.18<br>
                                                  > Switched to
                                                  branch '13.18'<br>
                                                  > Your branch is
                                                  up-to-date with
                                                  'gerrit/13.18'.<br>
                                                  > $ git describe<br>
                                                  > 13.18.4<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  > $<br>
                                                  ><br>
                                                  > We have to create
                                                  the minor release
                                                  branch (13.18) and do
                                                  the work there so<br>
                                                  > that patch
                                                  releases (13.18.4) are
                                                  based on the minor
                                                  release branch, not<br>
                                                  > the major branch.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                </span>Those branches
                                                are likewise short-lived
                                                branches (at least with
                                                respect<br>
                                                to the number of
                                                commits). Real work is
                                                done on master, 13, 15
                                                and such.<br>
                                                But when I'm on such a
                                                branch, I can't ask git
                                                on which branch I am
                                                (not<br>
                                                to mention: at which
                                                stage in it).<br>
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                                              <div> I _think_ I
                                                understand now.</div>
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                                                For instance: maybe
                                                whenever you tag a new
                                                release branch (e.g.
                                                13.18),<br>
                                                tag the split point as
                                                something like
                                                "13.18.base" or
                                                "base.13.18"?<br>
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                                              <div>Well, that's easy
                                                enough.  Toss us an
                                                issue for it.</div>
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                                                But maybe it's just me
                                                and branches 13 and 15
                                                are not widely used (for<br>
                                                master it is irrelevant
                                                anyway).<br>
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                                                    --<br>
                                                                 
                                                     Tzafrir Cohen<br>
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                                                  style="font-size:12.8px">Digium,
                                                  Inc. | Software
                                                  Developer</span><span
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                                                  445 Jan Davis Drive NW
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                              <div dir="ltr"><span
                                  style="font-size:12.8px">George Joseph</span><br
                                  style="font-size:12.8px">
                                <span style="font-size:12.8px">Digium,
                                  Inc. | Software Developer</span><span
                                  style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
                                  445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville,
                                  AL 35806 - US<br>
                                </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">Check
                                  us out at: </span><a
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                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.digium.com</a><span
                                  style="font-size:12.8px"> & </span><a
                                  href="http://www.asterisk.org/"
                                  rel="noreferrer"
                                  style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8px"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.aster<wbr>isk.org</a><br>
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            <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:12.8px">George Joseph</span><br
                style="font-size:12.8px">
              <span style="font-size:12.8px">Digium, Inc. | Software
                Developer</span><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
                445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - US<br>
              </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">Check us out at: </span><a
                href="http://www.digium.com/" rel="noreferrer"
                style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8px"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.digium.com</a><span
                style="font-size:12.8px"> & </span><a
                href="http://www.asterisk.org/" rel="noreferrer"
                style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8px"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.<wbr>asterisk.org</a><br>
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