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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hhhhmmm, I stand corrected. I’m surprised
that the carriers and regulators are allowing it, but…..wherever a buck’s to be
made, I guess…..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gerry<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There are 10 kinds of people in the world,
those who understand binary and those who don't.</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gerry Gilmore</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Field Applications Engineer</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Intel Corporation</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>(<a href="http://www.intel.com">http://www.intel.com</a>)</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>BJ Weschke<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 23, 2005
12:29 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Asterisk
Developers Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Open
source time card application for Asterisk</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> From an infrastructure perspective, you're right. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> From an ASP perspective, you're wrong. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <a href="http://www.spooftel.com/">http://www.spooftel.com/</a> -
"Spoof your own Caller ID for $0.10/min"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> If you're using GMail a number of other providers come advertised
alongside this thread. :-) <br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> For that very reason, the only way one could truly verify
someone's location via CID would be to do a callback to the CID supplied. <br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 9/23/05, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gilmore,
Gerry</span></b> <<a href="mailto:gerry.gilmore@intel.com">gerry.gilmore@intel.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Chuck,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Actually, Caller ID cannot – so far as I know – "easily
be spoofed". While you can usually disable sending "caller ID"
by the *6x method, be aware that if you call an 800 number, that 800 number * <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>will</span></b>* get the calling party number. It's
needed for billing the 800# recipient.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>With PRI, if you have it correctly provisioned by the carrier
and they support it, etc., you can legitimately spoof a caller name and number,
but I doubt a nurse or janitor would maintain a PRI line to do this. </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Gerry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those
who understand binary and those who don't.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Gerry Gilmore</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Field Applications Engineer</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Intel Corporation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>(<a href="http://www.intel.com/" target="_blank">http://www.intel.com</a>
)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">
asterisk-dev-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Chuck Bunn<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 23, 2005
12:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Asterisk
Developers Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Open
source time card application for Asterisk</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Joseph wrote: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 09:34 -0600, Chuck Bunn wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Hi,</span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I am in the process of developing a time card application that </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>integrates with Asterisk and I would like to know if anyone has done </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>this and if so can you recommend an open source time card application </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>that might reduce the amount of work required to connect it to Asterisk. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I do not want to reinvent the wheel and write a WEB based time card app, </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I would rather spend my time getting Asterisk to connect to it. I will </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>be using LAMP so it will be written in PHP instead of C...<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Thanks</span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote>
<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Do you mean employee time-card? With mysql database this would be very</span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>interesting project.</span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Do you have a short description of what it would do?</span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Hi,<br>
<br>
Thanks for responding. The basic system would work as follows. An employee
would call in and would transfer to a menu (either via an operator or via the
phone system if no operator is available). Something like press 1 for sales and
service press 2 for accounting and press 3 if you are an employee. Upon
pressing three the user would be asked to enter their employee ID and password.
The system would capture the employee ID , time of day and if available the
caller ID from the location they are calling from. When they are finished they
would repeat the process thus capturing the finish data for filling out a time
card. The usage is a group of field nurses that need an easy way to enter data
into there time cards since the Internet is not always available from the
locations they call from. Although the caller ID can easily be spoofed this is
not as important as capture of the time and employee data for filling out a
time card. A second application uses the same theory but for janitors. The
caller ID helps confirm they are where they are supposed to be. There are
several PHP time cards out there but I am trying to find the best for
interfacing with Asterisk. Phase one would be to capture the data to a flat
file phase 2 would be to get it into a database, phase three would interface it
to an existing LAMP based time card apt and phase 4 would allow for phone
access to information stored in the time card such as how many hours worked,
hours by day etc. A final phase would interface these to both Peachtree and
Quickbooks. <br>
<br>
I am working on a more definitive outline right now but I wanted some feedback
from the development community before doing so, so that I did not reinvent the
wheel.<br>
<br>
Thanks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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