<div> From an infrastructure perspective, you're right. </div>
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<div> From an ASP perspective, you're wrong. </div>
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<div> <a href="http://www.spooftel.com/">http://www.spooftel.com/</a> - "Spoof your own Caller ID for $0.10/min"</div>
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<div> If you're using GMail a number of other providers come advertised alongside this thread. :-) <br> </div>
<div> For that very reason, the only way one could truly verify someone's location via CID would be to do a callback to the CID supplied. <br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/23/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Gilmore, Gerry</b> <<a href="mailto:gerry.gilmore@intel.com">gerry.gilmore@intel.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chuck,</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Actually, Caller ID cannot – so far as I know – "easily be spoofed". While you can usually disable sending "caller ID" by the *6x method, be aware that if you call an 800 number, that 800 number *
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">will</span></b>* get the calling party number. It's needed for billing the 800# recipient.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With PRI, if you have it correctly provisioned by the carrier and they support it, etc., you can legitimately spoof a caller name and number, but I doubt a nurse or janitor would maintain a PRI line to do this.
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Gerry</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Gerry Gilmore</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Field Applications Engineer</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Intel Corporation</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.intel.com/" target="_blank">http://www.intel.com</a>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Joseph wrote: </span></font></p><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 09:34 -0600, Chuck Bunn wrote:
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<blockquote style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi,</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2">
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I am in the process of developing a time card application that </span></font></pre><pre>
<font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">integrates with Asterisk and I would like to know if anyone has done </span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
this and if so can you recommend an open source time card application </span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">that might reduce the amount of work required to connect it to Asterisk.
</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I do not want to reinvent the wheel and write a WEB based time card app, </span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2">
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I would rather spend my time getting Asterisk to connect to it. I will </span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">be using LAMP so it will be written in PHP instead of C...
</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks</span></font>
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</pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Do you mean employee time-card? With mysql database this would be very</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2">
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">interesting project.</span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New" color="black" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Do you have a short description of what it would do?</span></font></pre>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi,<br><br>Thanks for responding. The basic system would work as follows. An employee would call in and would transfer to a menu (either via an operator or via the phone system if no operator is available). Something like press 1 for sales and service press 2 for accounting and press 3 if you are an employee. Upon pressing three the user would be asked to enter their employee ID and password. The system would capture the employee ID , time of day and if available the caller ID from the location they are calling from. When they are finished they would repeat the process thus capturing the finish data for filling out a time card. The usage is a group of field nurses that need an easy way to enter data into there time cards since the Internet is not always available from the locations they call from. Although the caller ID can easily be spoofed this is not as important as capture of the time and employee data for filling out a time card. A second application uses the same theory but for janitors. The caller ID helps confirm they are where they are supposed to be. There are several PHP time cards out there but I am trying to find the best for interfacing with Asterisk. Phase one would be to capture the data to a flat file phase 2 would be to get it into a database, phase three would interface it to an existing LAMP based time card apt and phase 4 would allow for phone access to information stored in the time card such as how many hours worked, hours by day etc. A final phase would interface these to both Peachtree and Quickbooks.
<br><br>I am working on a more definitive outline right now but I wanted some feedback from the development community before doing so, so that I did not reinvent the wheel.<br><br>Thanks</span></font></p></span></div></div>
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