[asterisk-dev] AstriDevCon 2014: Agenda item Deprecate AMI/AGI (Ben Klang)

[Phil Mickelson]

So.  After all this I'm tired of hearing the same argument.  I've decided
to take the other side.

I have seen the progression of Asterisk for the last 5+ years.  I was at
Astricon when it was held in the DC area and the last one in Atlanta (I
wish you'd go back there instead of Vegas!).

I tried to use Asterisk many times but always found it wanting.  Why?  I'm
a programmer.  I like to be able to make tools do what I want.  So, I left
Asterisk and moved on to FreeSWITCH.  After beating my head against the FS
wall for quite some time I was just about ready to give up completely.
Until I saw the videos from Astricon 2013 talking about ARI.  I knew
immediately this is what I wanted.

Over the last several months I have written a full answering service system
using ARI.  It is PERFECT!  Would I like a few more features in ARI?  Of
course.  I'm I blown away by how complete the new options are?.  Without
ARI I could've never have done what I did.

Should they drop the dialplan?  Please.  Now.  I can't believe this isn't
holding back options.  You really want to stick with the dialplan?
Really?  Fine.  Do it.  You have all the source code.  Apparently, you use
V1.4 anyway.  What difference is it to you?

Be honest.  This has nothing to do with the Asterisk Community.  It has to
do with you.  What you want.  There are many of us who are very thankful
they have moved forward.  Both ARI and PJSIP.  The old SIP problems were
many and awful.

If all you want is a standard PBX you've got it.  What I want is something
I can work with without having to program in C again which I gave up many,
many years ago.  I have no interest in going back.

So, from my POV and hopefully many who will discover Asterisk again (I'm
talking to you FreeSWITCHers!) ARI (and PJSIP) are the real thing.  This is
a very exciting time and I'm looking forward to many applications that I
will be able to create.

Thank you Digium and all the Asterisk developers for going in this
direction.  I will certainly be at Astricon next year (even if it's in LV)
and you will hear me support moving forward as quickly as possible.

Phil Mickelson
CBA Software, LLC

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Paul Albrecht <palbrecht at glccom.com>
wrote:

>
> Not asking for unqualified promises about the future of Asterisk. Simply
> asking for an acknowledgment of the obvious, that is, Asterisk without the
> dial plan wouldn’t be Asterisk. The fact that one is not forthcoming raises
> a red flag with respect to the future of Asterisk. Furthermore, adding
> “asynchronous AGI”  and ARI/Stasis to Asterisk is similarly a cause for
> concern since it’s a complete break with the original Asterisk design.
> Since Asterisk is an open source community supported project, one would
> expect the consultants/developers pushing these changes would be willing to
> share their vision with the rest of the Asterisk community.
>
> On Oct 27, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Paul Albrecht <palbrecht at glccom.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The reason the dial plan can never be deprecated is because Asterisk
> wouldn’t be Asterisk without the dial plan. Sure, you could re-engineer
> Asterisk so that it would be “better" for a small select group of users at
> the expense of the majority of community that use the product as designed
> for the purpose it was originally intended. However, you’re either very
> naive or delusional if you think the community is going to follow you down
> that path. Do you really believe the community is going simply chuck their
> dial plans and walk away from their investment in Asterisk? Not likely,
> dude.
> >
> > My comment/question wasn't really about dial plans, per se.  My
> > question was about you insisting that Digium make such unqualified
> > promises about the future of Asterisk.  Even though Digium is a
> > private company, I believe that they are still bound by U.S. laws
> > regarding forward-looking statements[1].
> >
> > So even if they wanted to (which I doubt), there's no way you're going
> > to get the promise that you're looking for.
> >
> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-looking_statement
> >
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> >
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