[asterisk-dev] Asterisk and distributions (Debian, Fedora, etc)
Olle E. Johansson
oej at edvina.net
Wed Nov 14 13:24:08 CST 2012
14 nov 2012 kl. 19:54 skrev Paul Belanger <paul.belanger at polybeacon.com>:
> On 12-11-14 12:02 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>>
>> Following up from the SIP stack discussion, I think it may be useful to
>> have a separate thread to get comments from people about the
>> relationship of Asterisk with distributions.
>>
>> I give some Debian examples, but this is just as valid for any other
>> distribution.
>>
>>
>> Some of the issues that come to mind:
>>
>> - release cycles/cut off dates (e.g. Debian was `frozen' a few months
>> ago, no new Asterisk packages will be allowed until the next `stable'
>> release in 2 years, although updated packages can be distributed in
>> backports)
>>
>> - maintenance cycles (e.g. Debian releases need 3 years of security
>> updates, RHEL needs 7, which is a long time for VoIP)
>>
>> - interaction with the packaging process (e.g. more people joining as
>> Debian maintainer, which is a stepping-stone to becoming a full Debian
>> Developer)
>>
>> - interaction with the support process (e.g. using Debian's bug tracker)
>>
>> - addressing all of the above issues for dependencies, e.g. if using
>> libsrtp or resiprocate, how to make sure that distributions are all
>> carrying the version required by Asterisk?
>>
>> This last issue (dependencies) is sometimes perceived as a major pain in
>> itself - but if it is planned from the beginning and co-ordinated with
>> other projects, it can be managed and it can work favorably.
>>
>> At the end of the day, distributions bring a lot of users, and if
>> everything is planned well, then users don't have to ask questions about
>> dependencies or how to install. This saves valuable support time.
>>
>> I've worked with companies that just do telecoms and they don't mind
>> having bespoke servers for their apps, nor do they object to paying
>> fees for a freelance developer to fine tune everything. However, as
>> more and more IT managers want VoIP, they don't want to spend time
>> building anything from source, they want the convenience of installing
>> with apt-get or yum, just like they do with Apache or Postfix or Mysql.
>>
>> Having some clarity about these relationships may give insights about
>> the priorities for the SIP stack question.
>>
> So, lets us the following example right now with Asterisk 11, since we are already embedding pjproject in Asterisk and from what I understand it is a core dependency.
>
> I haven't talked with debian-voip yet, but I'm sure there is already some concern with packaging Asterisk 11 for Debian. IIRC, nothing has been started yet and I suspect having pjproject embedded into Asterisk is going to be a hot topic.
>
> Would you expect distributions to remove the dependency on pjproject? Or worst, not package Asterisk because of policy?
>
> It would also be good to hear what Fedora's plans are too.
>
Remember that we've embedded a Berkeley DB for years...
/O
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