[asterisk-dev] [Code Review] Rework of T.38 negotiation and UDPTL API to address interoperability problems
Kevin P. Fleming
kpfleming at digium.com
Tue Jul 14 08:10:33 CDT 2009
Steve Underwood wrote:
> How do you interpret the meaning of T38FaxMaxDatagram? Its a stupid
> name, as nothing in T.38 is actually referred to as a datagram. They use
> the term packet for both the IFP and UDPTL levels.
>
> T.38 D.2.1.3.1 says its "The maximum size of the payload within an RTP
> packet that can be accepted by the remote device."
>
> T.38 D.2.3.5 says its "This parameter signals the largest acceptable
> datagram for the offering endpoint and the answering endpoint (i.e., the
> maximum size of the RTP payload). The answering endpoint may accept a
> larger or smaller datagram than the offering endpoint. Each endpoint
> should be considerate of the maximum datagram size of the opposite
> endpoint."
>
> What exactly is the RTP payload? Before adding redundancy, or after?
> What about UDPTL? They never mention T38FaxMaxDatagram as having any
> relevence to UDPTL, although most systems only support UDPTL and most
> send a value for T38FaxMaxDatagram. A transmitted RTP packet can
> obviously be larger than T38FaxMaxDatagram, as you need to add the
> framing words to the payload. What happens in the case of UDPTL, where
> the framing and redundancy coalesce?
>
> In practice it seems some systems treat T38FaxMaxDatagram as the maximum
> IFP length, and some treat it as the maximum UDPTL length. I infer this,
> because some system use a number too small for it to be anything but the
> maximum IFP length.
The patch currently treats T38FaxMaxDatagram as the maximum UDPTL
payload size. The application is then given a maximum IFP length
computed by using the worst-case error correction overhead (and a little
bit of UDPTL overhead) for the mode the session is currently using.
> I've always regarded the number sent to my software as kinda iffy, and
> just tried to keep my IFPs pretty short.
I suspect that most stacks do that as well, since it's not well specified.
> This area really needs exploring more in the FoIP working group.
Agreed. Do you want to bring it up, or shall I?
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