[asterisk-dev] Asterisk AGI 2.0

[Steve Totaro]

So don't use his branch if it ever gets to that. 

I say go for it.  More options are good.  You may start to create one 
thing and then all of a sudden it becomes something totally else and 
even more useful than what you were after in the beginning.  History 
shows this to be true time and time again.

Thanks,
Steve

Martin Smith wrote:
> Hello Gaspar,
>
> I commend you for the interest and time you've taken to reconsider the
> idea of AGI and the suggestions you've made to improve it. I agree with
> you, in principle, about reducing the instruction set for AGI, but I
> don't really think this is feasible in any real world scenario (for me,
> anyway).
>
> First, I don't think we're going to see the end of the dialplan any time
> soon. No matter what AGI does, it will have to deal with this fact and
> likely MUST interoperate with the dialplan. I realize this sounds
> simple, but I think it is a critical acknowledgement we need to make to
> have the rest of the conversation.
>
> Given the above, pushing off things like DbGet and DbPut from AGI into
> an application's domain means that the dialplan can't always have access
> to application data after the AGI connection is broken. This would
> seriously cripple my ability to create a useful dialplan without pushing
> the whole thing into an AGI script.
>
> Regarding your ideas for event handlers for DTMF (and SIP messages,
> etc), I like them, but really, you can already handle these events in
> AGI by using statements that always accept DTMF when you play a file,
> and for other kinds of messages, I'd like to see AGI remain channel
> driver agonostic. Plus, I don't think it would be too difficult to
> create a wrapper around those to make them 'feel' event driven.
>
> I'd be more interested in seeing AGI scripts and the Manager interface
> somehow synthesized, as more often than not, the developers I see are
> connected to a user via AGI and dealing with events via the Manager
> interface, and then acting on AGI based on Manager data, and acting on
> the Manager interface based on AGI data.
>
> I hope this doesn't come off as negative, as I like the ideas, but I
> guess when I put myself in the position of using them, they create a few
> barriers I don't think I would enjoy struggling with :).
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin Smith, Systems Developer
> martins at bebr.ufl.edu
> Bureau of Economic and Business Research
> University of Florida
> (352) 392-0171 Ext. 221 
>
>  
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-dev-bounces at lists.digium.com 
>> [mailto:asterisk-dev-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Gaspar Zoltan
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:45 AM
>> To: 'Asterisk Developers Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-dev] Asterisk AGI 2.0
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This google docs publishing thing is a little bit new to me. 
>> I put it on
>> another account. And tried it on another computer. This link works.
>>
>> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgrzqb36_8c6j439
>>
>> Thanks, and waiting your opinions
>>
>> Zoltan Gaspar
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-dev-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-dev-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Tony Mountifield
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:22 PM
>> To: asterisk-dev at lists.digium.com
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-dev] Asterisk AGI 2.0
>>
>> In article <471f0301.1c365e0a.1f06.6244 at mx.google.com>,
>> Gaspar Zoltan <gasparz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>>  
>>> I would like to start a discussion about the AGI, about how 
>>>       
>> it should be
>>     
>>> modified to make asterisk more powerfull.
>>>  
>>> I started a document, if you have time please read it and 
>>>       
>> give me (and the
>>     
>>> asterisk developer community) your 2 cents about it. It's not a long
>>> document, shoudn't take more then 5 minutes.
>>>  
>>>  <http://docs.google.com/a/teamanswers.com/Doc?id=dcxr8kn4_14dxjq4b>
>>> http://docs.google.com/a/teamanswers.com/Doc?id=dcxr8kn4_14dxjq4b
>>>       
>> Can't get to it without creating a teamanswers.com account (I 
>> hate having
>> to create an account on a site just to look at stuff). Could you put
>> it somewhere public instead?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Tony
>> -- 
>> Tony Mountifield
>> Work: tony at softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk
>> Play: tony at mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org
>>
>>