[asterisk-dev] Support for Dialogic DM3 cards

Shidan shidan at gmail.com
Wed Mar 29 11:41:49 MST 2006


Hi Gerry, how much of the feature set will one be able to use with
abe, will you be working on new conferencing apps, etc for abe with
dialogic as well?

Regards,
Shidan Gouran

On 3/27/06, Gilmore, Gerry <gerry.gilmore at intel.com> wrote:
> While Steve is absolutely correct that the older Dialogic cards were
> only half-duplex, the newer "JCT" series of cards - and all of the DM3
> series cards - do support full-duplex audio streaming through a single
> DSP, so they can fit into the Asterisk architecture quite nicely - once
> you tune those buffer sizes, which we are doing in our channel driver.
> :-)
>
> More broadly, though, to the bigger question of DSP vs HMP (Host Media
> Processing: Intel-speak for audio processing through the host CPU),
> obviously there are many situations where HMP is the ticket. Certainly
> Steve's HMP routines in Asterisk have shown the power of this technology
> and we at Intel sell our own HMP. However, there are some situations
> where - for right now, anyway - onboard DSP support, especially when
> coupled with an onboard T1/E1 interface for advanced call control, can
> be more efficient, especially in higher call volumes.
>
> I think the fact that Digium themselves seem to be moving towards more
> onboard DSP-type processing in their products bears out this fact much
> more than anything that I could say, anyway.
>
> Finally, for those of you who met Dwayne (the Intel programmer leading
> the chan-dialogic driver effort) or myself at VON, then you already know
> that we are driving towards releasing the channel driver with the next
> release of Asterisk Business Edition, due RSN. As an earlier poster
> noted, for several reasons, our channel driver is available only in
> Asterisk Business Edition. As an old-time open source believer, it pains
> me personally for this to be the case, but at this point it is a matter
> of having an ABE-only channel driver or no channel driver.
>
> Gerry
>
>
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary
> and those who don't.
>
> Gerry Gilmore
> Field Applications Engineer
> Intel Corporation
> (http://www.intel.com)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-dev-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-dev-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Underwood
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:09 AM
> To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-dev] Support for Dialogic DM3 cards
>
> Wai Wu wrote:
>
> >---- i could comment on 'whats *loose* around here' but, there is no
> reason too.
> >
> >---- either you believe in asterisk and  what it can do for you.  (or
> you don't)
> >
> >---- if you are the latter, i'd suggest you leave before others sense
> your
> >---- lack of commitment.
> >
> >---- god forbid, you are a dialogic mole <G>.
> >
> >
> >Gee, you guys sound like a cult. LoL.
> >
> >
> I think that guy sounds more like a cretin.
>
> >Seriously, I am looking for ways to better integrate Dialogic/Aculab
> cards with Asterisk. The way it is done right now is very wasteful on
> the hardware (two speech resources per channel) when routing calls from
> PSTN to, say, IAX trunks. When I know more about the * source code,
> there might opportunity for a solution to this.
> >
> >
> The problem lies with the hardware, at least for Dialogic. There are
> Aculab drivers for *, but I don't know much about the Aculab cards. I do
> know quite a lot about the Dialogic cards, and they are very limiting.
> Most of the voice resources, and all the older one, are half-duplex. You
> can only do VoIP calls with a pairs of these resources. Even then, the
> performance sucks. Dialogic use huge amounts of buffering. This is great
> for IVR applications, as it makes the software timing very relaxed. For
> VoIP it makes the latency awful. There is a good reason why Dialogic
> built a completely separate line of cards for VoIP - the IVR + H.100 bus
> voice oriented cards really don't cut it.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
>
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