[Asterisk-Dev] Dev call 1.2 release discussion

[Luigi Rizzo]

On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 03:31:51PM -0500, Brian West wrote:
> Autoconf and pals have been offered up twice totally working and they  
> were going to help maintain it.. but in the usual fashion Digium and  
> gang ran that guy off.

the point is not having the working when they come, or for a while,
but to be sure that there is widespread knowledge on how to maintain
them so when the guru in charge disappears someone else can take over.

To this, there is nothing like good documentation and easy and
stable tools.

	cheers
	luigi

> /b
> 
> On May 6, 2005, at 3:21 PM, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 04:08:22PM -0400, Jerris, Michael MI wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jeremy McNamara
> >>>
> >>> Autoconf is not the answer.   I have a make menuconfig addition I am
> >>> working on.   I have mimicked the basic concept of the Linux  
> >>> kernel's
> >>> menuconfig option.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Autoconf is not the answer to what?  Autotools are potentially the
> >> answer to many of the crossplatform issues we have had lately, and
> >>
> >
> > well well well... this is going to be a religion war.
> >
> > autotools introduce a different (additional) set of dependencies
> > in the build system.
> >
> > I may accept that auto* config files written by someone who is
> > competent and fluent in the use of these tools may
> > solve problems; HOWEVER, there are not so many competent
> > autotools programmers, and in many cases the config files are just
> > copied from other programs (bugs included) and hacked by
> > trial and error until they do something acceptable on the one
> > system they tried them on.
> >
> > Which in the long term means having unmaintainable build
> > systems, and one that you have no control over once the 'guru'
> > who write them stops taking care of them.
> >
> > Because the build system evolves a lot over time, i consider
> > this a high risk.
> >
> >     cheers
> >     luigi
> >
> >
> >> before you ask if I will support it for the next 100 years, there  
> >> have
> >> been several people who have said they are wanting this AND ready to
> >> support it.  A make menuconfig would also be worth a good look as  
> >> well,
> >> thanks.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
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