[Asterisk-Dev] Is anyone thinking anymore?

[dking at pimpsoft.com]

Exactly.

On 30 Jul 2004 at 7:09, Kevin Walsh wrote:

> Greg Boehnlein [damin at nacs.net] wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Steve Szmidt wrote:
> > > Actually hacking is the activity of getting into and working inside a
> > > computer, usually to fix it. However you can hack with criminal intent
> > > and it's still hacking. Cracking came about as people who hacked but
> > > did not want to be associated with the criminal activity, started
> > > calling it cracking. Either one is correct, though one is more
> > > descriptive, but less used. (This is something some people will start a
> > > flame war over.) 
> > > 
> > > Then we got white, gray and black hats etc... Going too far off topic
> > > though. 
> > >
> > Hacking is gaining unauthorized access to resources you aren't supposed
> > to access. Used to mean computers, but it has been expanded to include
> > hacking hardware or non-computerized systems.
> > 
> > Cracking means defeating the copy protection of a piece of software to
> > allow duplication. Such as removing the DECCS encryption from a DVD so it
> > can be copied. 
> > 
> I'm afraid you're all wrong on this way off-topic thread. :-)
> 
> Hacking is what hackers do to code.  Hackers are programmers.  I hack
> code every day, so that makes me a hacker.
> 
> When cracker was caught and claimed to be "just a hacker", learning
> how to code on a machine he couldn't possibly afford, the popular
> press jumped on the term "hacker" as a neat buzzword.  The hijacking
> of the word has never really gone away, which explains why I get weird
> looks when I describe myself as a hacker to people who don't know any
> better.
> 
> Now you get various security consultants, and other script kiddies
> (with their multi-coloured hats) all claiming to be hackers.  This,
> combined with misinformed individuals such as yourselves, means that
> the hijackers of the word are unlikely to give it back to its rightful
> owners any time soon.
> 
> >
> > Such as removing the DECCS encryption from a DVD so it
> > can be copied.
> >
> By the way, you can't remove "DECCS" encryption from a DVD, but you
> can use DeCSS to read a DVD that was encoded using CSS. :-)
> 
> Again, way off-topic.
> 
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