[Asterisk-Dev] voicemail message number limits

[Hemant Kumar]

or DICK at PIMPSOFT.COM ?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve McMahon" <ajener at qwest.net>
To: <asterisk-dev at lists.digium.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Dev] voicemail message number limits


> Was sittin here lookin at an email address and
> noticed it was incomplete. dking at pimpsoft.com
> shouldn't it be
>
>                  DICKING at pimpsoft.com ?
>
> sounds more like the attitude i find by reading his postings.
>
> > dking at pimpsoft.com wrote:
> >
> > >On 25 Jul 2004 at 22:54, Sunrise Ltd wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>dking at pimpsoft.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>The reality of the telecommunications industry is that
> > >>>>this is an industry that has not had Open Source
> > >>>>alternatives for a particularly long time and as such
> > >>>>there are portions (such as G.729) required for
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>practical
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>use in certain applications that are not Open Source.
> > >>>>Digium simply cannot allow its ability to make such
> > >>>>decisions about Asterisk to be hindered by external
> > >>>>obligations.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>After all it would hurt Digium's business model;
> > >>>If Digium really cared about the open source community
> > >>>you would not be hindered by the globs of dependencies
> > >>>you use and would simply either buy out the licenses for
> > >>>the software that is not free and gpl it or start
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>software
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>projects that are open source to supply what you need,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>That's formidable nonsense
> > >>
> > >>G.729 is patented. You cannot write your own G.729 codec
> > >>and GPL it. THE GPL EXPLICITLY FORBIDS THAT.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >No it doesn't. It does not forbid clean room implementations from being
> created from reverse engineered sources or from plain english notes. All
> that would be required to make a gpl stack for it would be for one person
to
> take the specs and convert them to plain english and for another to read
it
> and code it from english. The right to free speech provides for this and
the
> gpl supports clean room implementations of anything proprietary, after all
> that is what LINUX started out as , a clean room implementation of
> > >a proprietary Unix clone, that base for the parent it self begin
> proprietary in nature.
> > >
> > >Dont give me that crap, you sound like SCO.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>A similar story with Dialogic support, even if there are
> > >>no patents. And then if we don't have Dialogic support,
> > >>you will probably the first to complain that Asterisk is
> > >>only a means to support Digium hardware, that it doesn't
> > >>support other vendors hardware,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >That is why Digium start asterisk in the first place , to have
something
> to help sell its hardware and provide a additional revenue stream; The
rest
> of the support to hide that fact.
> > >
> > >In the real world however most people agree that open
> > >
> > >
> > >>source will have to coexist with proprietary stuff. Like
> > >>it or not.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I never said that was not true , only that the current way of doing
> > >so for this project violates the gpl and the law. Implementation not
> > >design.
> > >
> > >
> > >>You are confusing legality with ethics here. You say that
> > >>Digium is acting illegally, but what you really mean is
> > >>that in your view their practises are unethical. However,
> > >>that is a matter of opinion.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Not really, remember enron?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>You are certainly entitled to your opinion but not
> > >>everybody will share your view of what is ethical and what
> > >>is not.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I fully admit my ethics may be better then other peoples, in fact I
> > >expect them to be.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Ah, now we finally get to know what your true agenda is.
> > >>Bitterness!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Not bitterness, I was simply stating that I have experience in this
> > >that you do not. Thus I have a much better  reason  and a much more
> > >valid authority in this matter then any of you do, not having this
> > >experience; I’m not bitter in fact I didn’t bring it up until the
> > >need to release the fact that yes I do have authority in this issue
> > >came up. Had I been bitter it would have come out much much sooner.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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