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Hi Nasir,<br>
<br>
The community edition will version supported, which means that we
will issue updates and new features<br>
to the Community edition. At this point in time, we are supporting
it mainly via email (electronic support),<br>
simply because we are concentrating much of our work on the SaaS
edition.<br>
<br>
An idea that we've been toying around with, again - this is just a
thought (no actions were taken at this point),<br>
is to create some form of pseudo-symbiotic connection between the
community edition and the SaaS. You are <br>
probably wondering: "What the hell is he talking about?" - I'll
explain. As I explained, the SaaS's main force is <br>
the sheer size of it - mainly, it's ability to correlate information
from multiple sources. The community edition<br>
has similar capabilities, however, as people will use it in a
closed-garden environment, it is left in the dark, as <br>
to what the SaaS knows and if something happens in the closed
garden, the SaaS isn't aware of it either. We were<br>
toying around the thought of allowing a community edition user to
interconnect his installation with the global<br>
SaaS. Thus, you share your information with the SaaS in an anonymous
manner, contributing back to the global<br>
effort, while no exposing who you are. At the same, when an update
to the community edition is released, you <br>
gain back from this contribution - think of it as an Open Source
project where just by installing and using the <br>
software you help the community behind it. <br>
<br>
Again, this is just something that we were toying around with - we
hadn't taken any actions to making this <br>
happen (and we don't know if we will). I hope that by raising the
flag here, we'll be able to get some really valuable<br>
input from the community - and maybe reach a final decision as to if
taking such a step in the project.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Nir S<br>
<br>
On 1/6/2011 5:28 PM, Nasir Iqbal wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTikbUPppyoycfjSsEBP+SjqhRNrsTo_r8e_StA1p@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">It is realy great idea and good effort , I was realy
looking such application , hopefully Community edition will be
supported and promoted by Humbug team
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<div>Nasir Iqbal<br>
<br>
ICT Innovations<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ictinnovations.com/"
target="_blank">http://www.ictinnovations.com/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Boaz
Bechar <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:boaz@humbuglabs.org">boaz@humbuglabs.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Gerald, All,<br>
<br>
Many thanks for the reactions, and interest.<br>
<br>
When we refer to the system being cloud-based we mean that
the analytical engine and processing is handled on our
servers rather than on the customers, the same way other
hosted services are typically provided (web analytics,
hosted pbxs, etc). We feel there are many advantages to
this, especially in our case where we aim to provide fraud
detection on the PBX level.<br>
<br>
I just want to clarify that the Humbug cloud service itself
does not connect to your AMI directly, rather we provide a
downloadable agent (the "humbug-collector") which resides on
the customers PBX, and connects to the manager locally (with
a password unknown to Humbug) in read-only mode. The
Humbug-collector is provided as open source, and essentially
sends events that you want handled, fully encrypted to
Humbug via API. Its possible to send events in other formats
(i.e from the dialplan or AGI, etc) but we feel this is the
best way to implement for most Asterisk users.<br>
<br>
We understand well that carriers employ analytics and fraud
detection on their traffic, and perhaps even have entire
revenue-assurance teams to handle cases. On the other side
of the scale we see millions of PBXs deployed, of all breeds
and vendors, which essentially have no real access to this
technology both from an implementation and ROI standpoint -
leaving the unsuspecting user having to explain the $100,000
in international phone calls (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9194041/Security_Manager_s_Journal_Slammed_with_a_100_000_phone_bill"
target="_blank">http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9194041/Security_Manager_s_Journal_Slammed_with_a_100_000_phone_bill</a>).<br>
<br>
With an estimated $80 billion lost annually to telecom
fraud, and nearly 20% classified as "PBX/voicemail fraud",
(CFCA 2009 global fraud loss survey) we feel the solution is
not a matter of perfecting algorithms in existing systems,
but rather of implementation, in which the analysis is on
done carrier-independent, by a dedicated service in the
cloud. And while we havent formally released the alerting
system as part of the analytics suite yet, we feel that the
traffic visibility which analytics provides is an important
first line of defense.<br>
<br>
I hope I clarified our intentions with the cloud service.<br>
<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
Boaz<br>
<br>
<br>
Gerald Bove wrote:<br>
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Can I have a little more information on how this works in
the cloud? I was just checking out the site, and was very
interested. I assumed it was just an app I ran either on
the asterisk server, or on a separate server, but if this
is "cloud" based, that kind of kills it.<br>
<br>
Sending this type of information to a third party (a
non-verified third part at that) is a big privacy concern.
At the very least opening AMI or whatever this uses to
pull the stats seems scary enough. <br>
I think your find that no real carrier will take this
product seriously if that's how it works.<br>
<br>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:11 AM<br>
To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'<br>
Subject: [BULK] Re: [asterisk-biz] Humbug Analytics -
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Some months ago we posted an open invitation to our beta
of Humbug<br>
Analytics, and I thought I would share some of our
progress since, as this may<br>
be relevant to many of you.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I'm sure I can't be the only one who's thinking "this
looks very nice, why can't they release it as an app?"
What's the obsession with "cloud" everything these days?<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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