Dear Luis,<br><br>We can provide you 407 area code. Could you email me at <a href="mailto:ni@supertec.com">ni@supertec.com</a> , so that I could reply you back with the quote.<br>Regards,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:06 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-request@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-request@lists.digium.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Dutch language recording (Arkadi Shishlov)<br>
2. Orlando DID's (Luis Mata)<br>
3. Friday Apr 9th 2010 @ 12 Noon EDT: More Cloud Telephony (Randy R)<br>
4. The hunt for a workable Asterisk GUI (Chris Bagnall)<br>
5. Re: The hunt for a workable Asterisk GUI (Stelios Koroneos)<br>
6. Re: The hunt for a workable Asterisk GUI (Zeeshan Zakaria)<br>
7. Re: Orlando DID's (Rick Orford)<br>
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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 03:00:08 +0300<br>
From: Arkadi Shishlov <<a href="mailto:arkadi.shishlov@gmail.com">arkadi.shishlov@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Dutch language recording<br>
To: <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a><br>
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Hi!<br>
We are interested in a person who speaks Dutch language to perform a ~1h<br>
recording for IVR menu. Project details here<br>
<a href="http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-April/247044.html" target="_blank">http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-April/247044.html</a><br>
Send you inquiries to <a href="mailto:leo@azuaz.com">leo@azuaz.com</a><br>
This is price sensitive assignment because the project itself is close to<br>
non-commercial, but you can get famous. :)<br>
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:17:14 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: Luis Mata <<a href="mailto:luism@ocntechnologies.com">luism@ocntechnologies.com</a>><br>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Orlando DID's<br>
To: <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a><br>
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Does any one have Orlando FL DID's (area code 407) need info.<br>
<br>
When you send info , let me know if you also accept number portability.<br>
<br>
thank you<br>
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Luis B. Mata<br>
<a href="http://www.ocntechnologies.com" target="_blank">http://www.ocntechnologies.com</a><br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:03:47 +0200<br>
From: Randy R <<a href="mailto:randulo2008@gmail.com">randulo2008@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Friday Apr 9th 2010 @ 12 Noon EDT: More Cloud<br>
Telephony<br>
To: VOIP Users Conference <<a href="mailto:VOIP-Users-Conference@googlegroups.com">VOIP-Users-Conference@googlegroups.com</a>>,<br>
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Today, Chris Matthieu, Founder & CEO of GetVocal, entered the<br>
cloud-based communications market in February, with its launch of<br>
Teleku.<br>
<br>
Teleku is a new cloud-based telecom service that allows Web developers<br>
to build and host phone applications that answer inbound calls and<br>
initiate outbound calls, interact with Web applications, and<br>
send/receive SMS text messages!<br>
<br>
Chris, who you may have met at Astricon last year, is our guest later<br>
today. If you're interested in the cloud - and who isns't, even if you<br>
don'thave immediate plans - join us, first on IRC on Freenode.net<br>
(channel #vuc) or <a href="http://vuc.me/irc" target="_blank">http://vuc.me/irc</a> for a web-based client.<br>
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The VUC takes place at Noon Eastern US Time, but for your time zone,<br>
look here : <a href="http://vuc.me/next" target="_blank">http://vuc.me/next</a><br>
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General info on how to connect, etc: <a href="http://vuc.me" target="_blank">http://vuc.me</a><br>
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SIP<br>
<br>
sip:200901@login./<a href="http://zipdx.com" target="_blank">zipdx.com</a> is best for g722 wideband-capable phones<br>
and accepts g711 as well<br>
<br>
You can also call sip:7463#22622#<a href="mailto:1@proxy.ideasip.com">1@proxy.ideasip.com</a> to connect to the<br>
Talkshoe bridge.<br>
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/r<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:09:00 +0100<br>
From: "Chris Bagnall" <lists@minotaur.cc><br>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] The hunt for a workable Asterisk GUI<br>
To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'"<br>
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Greetings list,<br>
<br>
I've traditionally been a proponent of the "manual configuration " approach, using .conf files and command lines to give us the greatest possible flexibility when writing call flows for customers. I've shied away from web interfaces as being overly restrictive and limiting what we can do for our customers.<br>
<br>
However, as we've grown as a company, taken on more customers (and hence more staff), there's become an ever-growing need for certain operations to be carried out by admin staff, rather than always having to be passed down to technical staff (who often have better things to do). I'm sure it's a problem faced by many companies on the list.<br>
<br>
So, what to do about it? Obviously there are "user-friendly" interfaces like FreePBX available, but they take over the *whole* asterisk config, shoehorning the user into their own fairly tight confines. Don't get me wrong, FreePBX is great as a company PBX installed on an on-site server, but it isn't much good as a VoIP hosting platform.<br>
<br>
What I think we're looking for is a fairly simple web interface to manipulate the tables used by Realtime. It doesn't have to be friendly. It doesn't have to be pretty. It just has to be easy enough for admin staff to use (with training, obviously) so that trivial call flow changes such as "please forward my calls to this mobile number" or "can you add extension 241 to this queue/ring group" can be made without having to involve technical staff.<br>
<br>
Would be very interested to hear what others in a similar position have done to overcome this growth problem. Did you write your own interface? Did you buy something off the shelf? Is there something in the FOSS marketplace that'll do the job?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:46:48 +0300<br>
From: Stelios Koroneos <<a href="mailto:skoroneos@digital-opsis.com">skoroneos@digital-opsis.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] The hunt for a workable Asterisk GUI<br>
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>
<<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a>><br>
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On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 11:09 +0100, Chris Bagnall wrote:<br>
> Greetings list,<br>
><br>
> I've traditionally been a proponent of the "manual configuration " approach, using .conf files and command lines to give us the greatest possible flexibility when writing call flows for customers. I've shied away from web interfaces as being overly restrictive and limiting what we can do for our customers.<br>
><br>
> However, as we've grown as a company, taken on more customers (and hence more staff), there's become an ever-growing need for certain operations to be carried out by admin staff, rather than always having to be passed down to technical staff (who often have better things to do). I'm sure it's a problem faced by many companies on the list.<br>
><br>
> So, what to do about it? Obviously there are "user-friendly" interfaces like FreePBX available, but they take over the *whole* asterisk config, shoehorning the user into their own fairly tight confines. Don't get me wrong, FreePBX is great as a company PBX installed on an on-site server, but it isn't much good as a VoIP hosting platform.<br>
><br>
> What I think we're looking for is a fairly simple web interface to manipulate the tables used by Realtime. It doesn't have to be friendly. It doesn't have to be pretty. It just has to be easy enough for admin staff to use (with training, obviously) so that trivial call flow changes such as "please forward my calls to this mobile number" or "can you add extension 241 to this queue/ring group" can be made without having to involve technical staff.<br>
><br>
> Would be very interested to hear what others in a similar position have done to overcome this growth problem. Did you write your own interface? Did you buy something off the shelf? Is there something in the FOSS marketplace that'll do the job?<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Chris<br>
<br>
We have been working on our gui for sometime now, targeting mostly<br>
embedded devices where mysql for settings its not just an overkill but<br>
most of the times simply can't run due to system architecture and<br>
resources.<br>
With that factor, we decided to "bite the bullet" and build our own gui<br>
from scratch.<br>
<br>
What i can say after this experience is 1st that there is no "silver<br>
bullet" regarding to gui's and 2nd that there are basically two types of<br>
gui's people want.<br>
<br>
One is what i call the "we do it all" gui like FreeePBX and others that<br>
try to cover the diverse requirement their extended user base has.<br>
The cost to this is an added "layer" of complex setup files and<br>
dialplans, which is pretty much tailored to what the gui designer thinks<br>
is the "correct way" of doing things.<br>
This kind of gui's are mostly for end-users or power-users that don't<br>
know or don't want to know the inner workings of a complex asterisk<br>
system. "They just want it to work" (tm)<br>
People more technically inclined with asterisk find this kind of gui<br>
rather restrictive and/or complex<br>
<br>
On the other hand there is the "spartan" gui, which does some pretty<br>
basic and usually time consuming tasks like the ones you mention or<br>
phone provisioning for example.<br>
These type of gui's also add a layer but usually its much smaller and<br>
are easier for professionals to customize.<br>
<br>
The main issue i have seen in both cases, over the years i have been<br>
working on this,is that the gui is pretty much "tied" with the<br>
underlaying system and dialplan philosophy.<br>
If you try to make a "generic", or "we do it all gui" you end up with<br>
something so big which is pretty much a system on its own, with its own<br>
quirks and gotsa's.<br>
<br>
On the other hand, people are "accustomed" to gui's coming with "off the<br>
self devices" (phones, routers you name it) and expect something similar<br>
to exist for asterisk.<br>
<br>
The problem here that few people realize, is that the "off the self<br>
appliances" have "standard" hardware and philosophy to start with, while<br>
with asterisk the sky is the limit.<br>
<br>
Just think how many different interconnections there are from 1 port<br>
analog, to isdn bri and multi port PRI with different channel drivers<br>
and settings, or how "pickup" works over different channels and you get<br>
the picture.<br>
<br>
So my advise is if you think that the available gui's are too big or<br>
complex find one of the "spartan" gui's and try to customize it or<br>
(shameless plug follows) contact me of list to arrange of demo of or<br>
gui.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Digital OPSiS - Embedded Intelligence<br>
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Tel +30 210 9858296 Ext 100<br>
Fax +30 210 9858298<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:48:37 -0400<br>
From: Zeeshan Zakaria <<a href="mailto:zishanov@gmail.com">zishanov@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] The hunt for a workable Asterisk GUI<br>
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>
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I faced the same situation, and ended up programming my own GUI for this<br>
purpose, using realtime. It doesn't have queue support yet. I have<br>
programmed another multi-tenant solution for a client who provides hosted<br>
PBX solution. I was thinking of fine tuning he code I have and make it<br>
public, but don't know when I'll get time for that.<br>
<br>
FreePBX is good but for single tenants, though with some modifications it<br>
can be used as multi-tenant solution too. But I don't like Reloading of it<br>
for after every single change, and prefer real-time approach.<br>
<br>
Zeeshan A Zakaria<br>
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On 2010-04-09 6:16 AM, "Chris Bagnall" <lists@minotaur.cc> wrote:<br>
<br>
Greetings list,<br>
<br>
I've traditionally been a proponent of the "manual configuration " approach,<br>
using .conf files and command lines to give us the greatest possible<br>
flexibility when writing call flows for customers. I've shied away from web<br>
interfaces as being overly restrictive and limiting what we can do for our<br>
customers.<br>
<br>
However, as we've grown as a company, taken on more customers (and hence<br>
more staff), there's become an ever-growing need for certain operations to<br>
be carried out by admin staff, rather than always having to be passed down<br>
to technical staff (who often have better things to do). I'm sure it's a<br>
problem faced by many companies on the list.<br>
<br>
So, what to do about it? Obviously there are "user-friendly" interfaces like<br>
FreePBX available, but they take over the *whole* asterisk config,<br>
shoehorning the user into their own fairly tight confines. Don't get me<br>
wrong, FreePBX is great as a company PBX installed on an on-site server, but<br>
it isn't much good as a VoIP hosting platform.<br>
<br>
What I think we're looking for is a fairly simple web interface to<br>
manipulate the tables used by Realtime. It doesn't have to be friendly. It<br>
doesn't have to be pretty. It just has to be easy enough for admin staff to<br>
use (with training, obviously) so that trivial call flow changes such as<br>
"please forward my calls to this mobile number" or "can you add extension<br>
241 to this queue/ring group" can be made without having to involve<br>
technical staff.<br>
<br>
Would be very interested to hear what others in a similar position have done<br>
to overcome this growth problem. Did you write your own interface? Did you<br>
buy something off the shelf? Is there something in the FOSS marketplace<br>
that'll do the job?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:05:37 -0700<br>
From: Rick Orford <<a href="mailto:rick@comcanada.ca">rick@comcanada.ca</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Orlando DID's<br>
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Hi Luis,<br>
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ComCanada can offer DIDs and port from Orlando FL.<br>
<br>
Contact me off list and I'll get you set up.<br>
<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
Rick Orford, Account Director<br>
ComCanada Communications Inc.<br>
<a href="http://www.comcanada.ca" target="_blank">www.comcanada.ca</a><br>
Tel/Fax: (604) 998-4500 x6008<br>
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Customer Experience is very important to us.<br>
Please forward any feedback to my manager<br>
at <a href="mailto:andrea@comcanada.ca">andrea@comcanada.ca</a>.<br>
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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Luis Mata <<a href="mailto:luism@ocntechnologies.com">luism@ocntechnologies.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Does any one have Orlando FL DID's (area code 407) need info.<br>
><br>
> When you send info , let me know if you also accept number portability.<br>
><br>
> thank you<br>
><br>
> Luis B. Mata<br>
> <a href="http://www.ocntechnologies.com" target="_blank">http://www.ocntechnologies.com</a><br>
> 954-889-8626<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Kind regards,<br><br><br>Nauman Ibrahim Syed<br>Manager Carrier Relations and Fraud Prevention.<br>Great offer 1000 USA DIDs for 150$.<br>Didx special offer :<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iew-LVDVbLs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iew-LVDVbLs</a><br>
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