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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s the new economy and if your not aspng
everything you missed the boat. Keep trying to sell CPE or build in house and
your dead. Hosted is the way to go. You build it I’ll sell.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Wes Reece<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 08, 2009
9:29 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Commercial
and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz] OT:
Co-location vs Build Out Insight</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>they're all out to get me
aren't they ;)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:37 AM, ContactTel Business <<a
href="mailto:lists@contacttel.com">lists@contacttel.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Ahahah nice one, there is something we
all call ethics, but hey, how can you trust your local grocery store, maybe
they poisoning you with genetically mod’ed food, or aspartame, maybe there is a
conspiracy with oil prices, maybe our wives actually don’t work and all have
affairs with the colo guy as well, why doesn’t the foreign support guy
from your landline/cable service just use your account to download stuff or
call ?</span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>you def need to trust someone ,</span></font><span
lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> somewhere, else you’re on your
own, and that means no business, as the word itself defined </span></font><span
lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>“It is in the 16th century that we also
first find the specific sense of "trade; commercial transactions or
engagements"”</span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><span lang=EN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Wes Reece<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> April-07-09 11:59 PM <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Commercial
and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz] OT:
Co-location vs Build Out Insight<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt'>Its
interesting that most people prefer <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">colo.</st1:place></st1:State>
I dont know why but I'm afraid of trusting other people with my operations or
data. The thought of the colo employee, sending out millions of voip calls from
my box perhapse. How did you guys over come this fear? or am I just being too
paranoid? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt'>On
Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Stephane Bakhos <<a
href="mailto:voip-asterisk@maximumcrm.com" target="_blank">voip-asterisk@maximumcrm.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yes,
we use these in our most critical servers.<br>
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On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, ContactTel Business wrote:<br>
<br>
> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:29:10 -0400<br>
> From: ContactTel Business <<a href="mailto:lists@contacttel.com"
target="_blank">lists@contacttel.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt'>>
Reply-To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
> <<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com"
target="_blank">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a>><br>
> To: '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
Discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
> <<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com"
target="_blank">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight<br>
><br>
> Steph, you talking about<br>
> <a
href="http://www.ami.com/products/product.cfm?CatID=4&SubID=32&prodid=196"
target="_blank">http://www.ami.com/products/product.cfm?CatID=4&SubID=32&prodid=196</a>
?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com"
target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com"
target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] On Behalf Of
Stephane Bakhos<br>
> Sent: April-07-09 7:52 PM<br>
> To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight<br>
><br>
> If you are starting out in business colocation is usually the cheapest<br>
> option. you won't have to worry about all of the hassle related to running<br>
> an actual data center.<br>
><br>
> There are a lot of colocation providers out there, unfortunately the<br>
> various experiences I had only proved that cost is not the best metric for<br>
> reliability.<br>
><br>
> I do however recommend that you have in house technical staff and not to<br>
> rely on the staff of whichever colocation center you select. Or at the<br>
> very least make sure you work with a dependable contractor that can<br>
> respond to emergencies.<br>
><br>
> If that isn't an option, invest in a lights-out remote management card to<br>
> plug your server in (<a href="http://www.ami.com/" target="_blank">www.ami.com</a>
has some ok ones).<br>
><br>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Max Clark wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:27:34 -0700<br>
>> From: Max Clark <<a href="mailto:max.clark@gmail.com"
target="_blank">max.clark@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Reply-To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Commercial and Business-Oriented
Asterisk Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
>> <<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com"
target="_blank">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a>><br>
>> To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Commercial and Business-Oriented
Asterisk Discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
>> <<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com"
target="_blank">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight<br>
>><br>
>> There are a lot of pieces to this puzzle. Examples:<br>
>><br>
>> - For some companies the $1,000/sq foot average construction costs<br>
>> keep the idea of building an in house datacenter off the table.<br>
>> - For small (100 sq foot) installations it's reasonable to purchase a<br>
>> medium sized UPS and HVAC for the computer room - the nightmare is<br>
>> getting a generator installed and a permit for the exhaust and fuel<br>
>> storage.<br>
>> - Even installing fiber into your office<br>
>> (<a href="http://www.phyber.com/ip/#ontap" target="_blank">http://www.phyber.com/ip/#ontap</a>)
doesn't give you the rapid scale of<br>
>> being able to order new GigE/10Gig circuits overnight at a <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">colo.</st1:place></st1:State><br>
>><br>
>> How much would it cost your business per hour of downtime? Could you<br>
>> survive if you lost service to your building for two days?<br>
>><br>
>> For most it is way easier/cheaper to colocate the equipment.<br>
>><br>
>> -Max<br>
>><br>
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-Wes-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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