I dont agree with having people sign up at these bidding sites, i think they are a bit over rated. <br>besides that, andy might have a small niche here of people needing things done, now why should <br>he go and compete with thousands of others on some bidding site. we are speaking of someone<br>
probably without alot of funds at the moment, and in order to get any real work from these bidding <br>site well most of them require you to pay for some type of gold level fee which is just rediculous.<br>I know a group of programmers i outsource all my development to, no bids, no comptetition, <br>
they work i pay, been that way for 10+ years now, so if anyone has projects they need done <br>programming or systems wise, they can let me know, ive got the developers hungry and waiting<br>as for graphics and web design, i have work i think maybe andy could accomplish. <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Dean Collins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Dean@cognation.net">Dean@cognation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Hey Drew, Andy should get his shit
together and bid on projects at 99designs.</span></font></p>
<p><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">If he's got a half decent
portfolio there is plenty of work to bid on there.</span></font></p><div class="Ih2E3d">
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Collins<br>
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in-dial).<br>
+44-20-3129-6001 (London
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<p><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"> <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Drew Gibson<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 12 November 2008
4:21 PM<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Commercial
and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz] How to
live in this world without job</div></div></span></font><font color="black"><span style="color: windowtext;"></span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hey Dean,<br>
<br>
I think we're trying to find work for ANDY here! :-)<br>
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regards,<br>
<br>
Drew<br>
<br>
<br>
Dean Collins wrote: </span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">You should check out <a href="http://www.99designs.com" target="_blank">www.99designs.com</a></span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">i use this site to find freelance design work for all
my projects.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Cheers,</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><a href="mailto:Dean@cognation.net" target="_blank">Dean@cognation.net</a></span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
on behalf of Steve Totaro<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wed 11/12/2008 1:11 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Commercial
and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [asterisk-biz] How to
live in this world without job</span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ditto</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Outback Dingo <<a href="mailto:outbackdingo@gmail.com" target="_blank">outbackdingo@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></p>
<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">i own OptimWIFI a wireles sinternet services provider,
can you do web design, graphics, logos ?? I have a need for a graphics artist
with talent and a brain to do some graphics, logos, design, brochures. Think
you can handle it ?? i know its not much but if the work is good i can probably
get you more thru people i know </span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Andy Spring
<<a href="mailto:andyspr@gmail.com" target="_blank">andyspr@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hello my friend, I am in
Shenzhen</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">2008/11/12 Outback Dingo <<a href="mailto:outbackdingo@gmail.com" target="_blank">outbackdingo@gmail.com</a>>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">where in China do you reside ? what city ? </span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Andy Spring
<<a href="mailto:andyspr@gmail.com" target="_blank">andyspr@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks for you everyone for your help, does anyone
have any part-time job for me, I can do the works of translation between
english and chinese as well as help you make purchase in China and check the
quality of goods only with small commissions.</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Also I can do photoshop and coreldraw and can help you
make logo and web</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thank you very much everyone</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Best regards</span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">andy</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">2008/11/12 STEVE TOTARO <<a href="mailto:STOTARO@mail.schoffstall.com" target="_blank">STOTARO@mail.schoffstall.com</a>></span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">>-----Original Message-----<br>
>From: <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a> on behalf of
Andrew Kohlsmith (lists)<br>
>Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 7:32 PM<br>
>To: <a href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</a></span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">>Subject: Re:
[asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job<br>
><br>
>On November 11, 2008 10:08:49 am Steve Totaro wrote:<br>
>> Sorry, they do have a purpose, and some are very fair, but having gone<br>
>> through them many times over the years, I conclude they are mostly<br>
>> comparable to a tick, leech, or worst case, a tape worm.<br>
><br>
>This is an unfair stereotype. I have had the pleasure of working with
a few<br>
>headhunters who have placed me where I would have never been able to find<br>
>work on my own. Not because I'm incompetent, but rather because<br>
>their "reach" is so much wider than mine. Yes, their cut is very
high in my<br>
>opinion, but I am by and large very happy to work with them.<br>
><br>
>I find that if you take the time to establish a good working relationship
with<br>
>them, and if you establish clear expectations and can demonstrate your<br>
>capabilities, you end up with an excellent resource for finding varied and<br>
>challenging work.<br>
><br>
>Remember you can always turn down their offers, but why would you write off<br>
>the entire industry? I am happy to work in a dozen industries rather than<br>
>just one.<br>
><br>
>-A.</span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I suppose you missed this
little bit "Sorry, they do have a purpose, and some are very fair" or
maybe you wouldn't be attempting to correct me.<br>
<br>
A stereotype is a natural thing for humans, we group, classify, assign a genus
and phylum... It is how we make sense of things. Like it or not,
stereotypes are generally correct, although there are exceptions to everything,
as I stated in the beginning.<br>
<br>
I have worked with many of them and as I said, some are very fair. I
liken the rest to the now extinct subprime mortgage brokers.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Steve T</span></font></p>
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