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6 prepaid<br> - Yes , no dialer traffic<br><br>Voice Network Inc<br><a href="http://www.VoiceNetwork.ca">http://www.VoiceNetwork.ca</a><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:06 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:voip-asterisk@maximumcrm.com">voip-asterisk@maximumcrm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
>> I am now 35 years old, My english sucks, I was born and raised and went to school in<br>
>> Pakistan btw, Can u speak a few words from any other languages that I speak btw including<br>
>> Hindi, Urdu, Punjabi, Sindhi, Memoni btw ?<br>
><br>
> I was not looking to make this an ad-hominem issue or an egotistical<br>
> contest. There is certainly no question in mind that because you are<br>
> frmo the south/southeast Asian region of the world, you are bound to<br>
> know more languages, including ones which would be considered rather<br>
> exotic in the European and North American world and therefore, indeed,<br>
> ones that I would be unlikely to speak.<br>
><br>
> Your response about being a poor English speaker is a nonsequitur,<br>
> meaning a conclusion that has no evidentiary relationship to the<br>
> premises used to support it. The character of this mailing list - and<br>
> the open-source oriented VoIP community - is an international one. The<br>
> fact that many members of this list are non-native English speakers and<br>
> may encounter difficulties with proper grammar, spelling, vocabulary<br>
> usage, etc. is widely understood and appreciated for its implications,<br>
> and foreigners who encounter those liabilities are forgiven for<br>
> precisely those reasons. Nobody - including myself - is here to be a<br>
> language snob. We have business to conduct.<br>
><br>
> The tendency for which you are being repeatedly called out is not one<br>
> for which being a foreigner is a useful or plausible defense. It is<br>
> that you are _lazy_ - lazy to a point that undermines the effectiveness,<br>
> plausibility, authority, credibility, or marketing value of your<br>
> business-related communication.<br>
><br>
> This is a problem you have in common with many businesspeople and other<br>
> speakers of English for whom it is a native language; being a foreigner<br>
> has absolutely nothing to do with it, and you cannot hide behind that.<br>
> There are many foreigners who post on this list and elsewhere who<br>
> outperform you in the area of communication despite English skills<br>
> vastly inferior to your own.<br>
><br>
> You cannot reasonably claim, for example, that a message ridden with "u"<br>
> in place of "you" is a consequence of the encumbrance you face as a<br>
> non-native English speaker. All told, the general appearance of your<br>
> messages -- including this latest one, in a rather extreme way -- is<br>
> consistent with an amateur and unsophisticated narrative voice, and that<br>
> is the perception that you are fostering among your audience.<br>
><br>
> The difference between your missives and those written by other<br>
> foreigners whose English is somewhat lacking is that many of the latter<br>
> exhibit evidence of having actually _tried_. If they know they are<br>
> going to make mistakes that impede comprehension, they will have their<br>
> grammar and orthography proofread. They do not use juvenile conventions<br>
> such as "u" ("text speak") that further undermine the already<br>
> beleaguered communicative value of the message. Is typing "you" really<br>
> that much harder than "u?"<br>
><br>
> For example, I have a passable, basic conversational knowledge of<br>
> Spanish that I accrued through taking courses for eight years. This<br>
> knowledge has deteriorated considerably now, especially in my<br>
> recollection of various grammatical rules, as I haven't had the<br>
> opportunity to use it frequently or develop it beyond the last point at<br>
> which I encountered it in my education. If I were to post to a<br>
> Spanish-language mailing list, I would not expect to emulate the<br>
> quality, articulation, or apparent literary erudition of an experienced<br>
> speaker's sentence production, nor believe that I am somehow going to<br>
> avoid some severe grammatical mistakes.<br>
><br>
> That is not a problem, and I would expect the readership to understand<br>
> and work with me. What I think they would find disrespectful and<br>
> bewildering is not that I don't write Spanish very well, but if my<br>
> message entailed the same implicit hubris that yours does--the<br>
> presumption that it is not important to even try. So, on top of my<br>
> already broken grammar, I would write "k" instead of "que" (as many<br>
> Spanish users--and especially Latin American residents of the US--of<br>
> instant messengers are given to do). That would be seen as off-putting,<br>
> and they would probably dismiss me as a bumbling clown.<br>
><br>
> I don't think this should engender any hard feelings on anyone's part,<br>
> nor should you assume that it necessarily negatively impacts people's<br>
> perception of you or blinds them to the potential of your rich<br>
> individuality and nuances as a human being. However, this being the<br>
> only forum in which this community's understanding of you develops, you<br>
> should take care to look after yourself.<br>
<br>
</div></div>Had I known that my comment would have turned into a language debate I<br>
wouldn't have posted it.<br>
<br>
Let's conclude this and go back to talking about DIDs.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
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