<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Jai Rangi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jprangi@gmail.com">jprangi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Well ! based on the real meaning of Unlimited in your dictionary, actually there should be not any any such word called Unlimited. Cause there is no unlimited sun, not unlimited water in ocean, these is no unlimited air in space. Everything humans know has been calculated. <br>
To me if I can get something more than I can use in near future that is unlimited for me. Of if I can stay on phone without looking at clock is unlimited calling. <br>BTW when I will sign contract with you I will put a limits of 50 channels per DID ;) . <br>
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<br>-Jai</font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trixter@0xdecafbad.com" target="_blank">trixter@0xdecafbad.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:52 -0400, Joe Antkowiak wrote:<br>
> saying things like "unlimited residential" and "unlimited business" with a<br>
> detailed user agreement makes it just about as legal and honest as anyone else<br>
> out there.<br>
><br>
> leaving a channel up 24/7 would be more like "unlimited carrier"<br>
><br>
> it's all about definitions<br>
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</div>I agree that it makes it about as honest as anyone else out there, and<br>
that is my point. When you say unlimited it should be "without limits".<br>
Some providers were as low as 5000 minutes (AT&T), although the average<br>
seems now to float somewhere 15k-25k/month. 5000 minutes is not even<br>
that much for the average teenager, let alone if you have two of them in<br>
the house. Sure its 2.75 hours a day, but I also recall when I was a<br>
teenager and I spent 8+ hours/day on the phone.<br>
<br>
20k is about 11 hours a day, if you have 2 teenagers, and each has a<br>
channel open at the same time that halves that. But that is still<br>
"reasonable" but not unlimited, which is my point.<br>
<br>
business/residential is more about how its used, rather than how much,<br>
or at least it should be.<br>
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The fact that you have to say "its all about definitions" shows that you<br>
understand the issue I am talking about, redefining words so that they<br>
can be used in ways their normal definitions do not allow. Unlimited<br>
means just that, without limits. Any limit imposed makes it limited,<br>
quite the opposite of unlimited. Rather than define "unlimited<br>
residential" as a term of art, it should just be "residential" and if<br>
there are limits explain them (most will just say some term like<br>
"whatever we feel like" for minute caps, and will actively refuse to<br>
tell you how many minutes are too many making the problem worse).<br>
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