Good to know if I want to get back at an ex ;)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Miles Scruggs <<a href="mailto:asterisk@wideideas.com">asterisk@wideideas.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
This belief is limited to your experience with PRIs. When you obtain<br>
SIP termination services from ATT, Verizon, or Level 3. They have no<br>
way of verifying what ANI/CID you are sending. It doesn't matter if<br>
you are calling 800s or not, they bill it back to the CID that you<br>
pass (not to say that your carrier won't bill you as well since they<br>
see the calls go through their switches, but they more than likely<br>
won't see the reciprocal billing from the receiving LEC). Want a<br>
proof of concept? Setup an account with a small terminating provider<br>
like Junction networks, send all your calls out with the ANI of your<br>
cell phone. Last step will be to recoil in horror next time you open<br>
your cell phone bill. I'm not saying they can't track you down, or<br>
trace abuse back to you, since everything is logged, but very little<br>
verification happens.<br>
<br>
If you are sending thousands of calls per day to a trunk that is<br>
outbound only, from thousands of different parties, you don't have to<br>
delve into to much logic to see the obvious result.<br>
<br>
Cheer<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Miles<br>
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On May 9, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:<br>
> I may be wrong here but I do not believe that ANI can be spoofed.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_identification" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_identification</a><br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Steve Totaro<br>
><br>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:03 AM, <<a href="mailto:nigel.dennis@sympatico.ca">nigel.dennis@sympatico.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Mike... The reason why collection services, skip tracers and private<br>
>> investigators ask to call back on their 800 toll free is simply<br>
>> because you<br>
>> can not spood your ANI to a 800 #.<br>
>><br>
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>> From: "Mike Hammett" <<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz@ics-il.net">asterisk-biz@ics-il.net</a>><br>
>> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk<br>
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>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] ANI<br>
>> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:29:48 -0500<br>
>><br>
>> Is the CID of a call to a toll free number really the ANI,<br>
>> therefore not<br>
>> spoofed or blocked?<br>
>><br>
>> Someone who's opinion I respect said it generally is, but he wasn't<br>
>> sure.<br>
>> Since I have a potential customer coming to me with an ANI<br>
>> requirement, not<br>
>> a CID requirement, I figured I should make sure.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ----------<br>
>> Mike Hammett<br>
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions<br>
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>><br>
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