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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=002422921-05112007>I've come across some GUIs in the past where if I made
a change in a config file, the GUI would overwrite that change. I guess they
completely re-create the config file every time a "submit" is made. Some things
are just easier to do in the config files than in the GUI, and I was wondering
if Switchvox had this problem...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=002422921-05112007>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=002422921-05112007>N</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Alex
Epshteyn<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 05, 2007 1:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
david.cantera@IBSOneCall.com; 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
Discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [asterisk-biz] Switchvox Free Edition vs
Thirdlane<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dave,
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is great that you
looked at what we offer and “got it”. You are absolutely correct – it is a lot
more than just branding and minor customization. Thirdlane was built with the
idea that VARs and consultants need a system that can be tailored to the (ever
changing) customers’ needs.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Asterisk is an
extremely versatile and powerful platform and our goal when building the GUI was
not to constrain this power. System extension capabilities were built-in from
the start and are integrated into the GUI. We also made the software as open as
possible both in terms of the dialplan and configuration files visibility and
the deployment environment. It can be deployed on different <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">OSs</st1:place></st1:City> (various flavors of
Linux and FreeBSD), versions of Asterisk (1.2.X and 1.4.X), with a variety of
phones (auto-provisioning for Aastra, Snom, Cisco, Polycom, Linksys), it is
packaged as either a Webmin module or a complete CentOS based distribution.
Obviously, this openness makes it harder for us to support it (we are
doing our best as the customers base is growing), but gives VARs and consultants
the ability to add real value through deep customization and possible tailoring
to a vertical, beyond the installation and configuration of a basic PBX. That
said, the basic functionality is also there, and is not any harder to use than
any other Asterisk GUI. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There is nothing wrong
with Switchvox and the “bulletproof” approach – we just offer something
different. Isn’t Asterisk about having a choice
anyway?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Alex<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#330000 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Alex
Epshteyn</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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tabIndex=0 w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial color=#330000 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Third
Lane</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Technologies,
LLC</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#330000 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A title=http://www.thirdlane.com
href="http://www.thirdlane.com">http://www.thirdlane.com</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>dave cantera<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:19
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
Discussion</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [asterisk-biz] Switchvox Free
Edition vs Thirdlane</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#330000 size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">speaking of the gui being a work in progress and from
the banter about my switchvox post, I realized that I was so wrapped up in what
I was doing, I neglected to 'watch the marketplace'. for new
developments... <BR><BR>it seems that each offering has at least one,
probably more, unique takes on solving the gui problem... <BR><BR>when reviewing
the thirdlane website, which was substantially updated since I last checked,
alex offers a unique product that allows a reseller entré into a market where
there is no way to get into that market with a solution such as switchvox.
<BR><BR>where switchvox is a nice clean and bullet proof install for a biz that
wants a telephone system (like a key system) with an IVR they can work with
themselves and pretty much not muck it up, Thirdlane offers a gui that the
reseller can customize and brand as their own and, I suspect, add customized
features tailored specifically to that application of asterisk and that would
otherwise not be available in a gui form.... <BR><BR>alex perhaps you can
expand on this, as it is better to come right from the horse's
mouth.<BR>daveC<BR><BR>Dovid Bender wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=#330000 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><snip><BR>You are also very
right that GUI is "work in progress" all the time.<BR>My point is is one and
only: GUI is collection of knowledge, skills and <BR>experiences and lets not
forget after sales service which are crucial to <BR>successful
deployments.<BR></snip><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#330000 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Windows XP has been released how
many years ago ? Aren't they still coming out with fixes for it ? IMHO there is
no perfect human being. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><PRE wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=#330000 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><FONT face="Courier New" color=#330000 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><FONT face="Courier New" color=#330000 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><FONT face="Courier New" color=#330000 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
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