And I am the opposite, being able to program Trixbox does not make me a techie. I think the main failing of the open source voice community is the lack of sale and marketing collateral. This means we do not get the messages out in the mind of the users/buyers. Currently all our businesses exist in isolation.
<br><br>Regards<br><br>Mark<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/16/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">shadowym</b> <<a href="mailto:shadowym@hotmail.com">shadowym@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Like a lot of techies,
I'm strong on the technical stuff but weak on marketing/sales.<span> </span>I'm sure there are a LOT of people who could
benefit from a sales/marketing wiki or forum or whatever for sharing
ideas/marketing material etc.</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> bob murphy [mailto:<a href="mailto:springsource@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">springsource@gmail.com
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 15, 2007 6:27 PM<div><span class="e" id="q_115a6dfe5457fc35_1"><br>
<b>To:</b> Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(</span></div></span></p>
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<p>My original intention, which I admit that I did not communicate
clearly, was to suggest that we maintain dialogue on this board around best
practices. Specifically on how to position value and charge
accordingly. And that we all present our respective organizations as high
value add service boutiques specializing in Open Source Telephony
integration. This will allow all of us to offer solutions that are
competitive to Cisco, Shoretel, Nortel etc. and keep our respective
bottom lines healthy. Anyone who has lived through a technology adoption
cycle (or three of them) knows what I am talking about. We will all be
well served, as will our clients, if we go into the mass adoption phase BEFORE
commodization happens. In a word - Community. Let's maintain a
community of opportunists who create a market opportunity. I believe we
can do this and all of us will prosper and our clients will be ecstatic. </p>
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<p>Arreva Communications<br>
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<p><span>On 10/15/07, <b>Aleks Clark</b> <<a href="mailto:aleks.clark@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">aleks.clark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<p>Yea, price fixing aside, I can sympathize with wanting to
know how much to charge for something...business not being my strong suite :P
Of course, that's probably why I'm running telecoms in Iraq instead of selling
voip and wifi in some nice burough... </p>
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<p><span>On 9/15/07, <b>Derrick Moennick</b>
<<a href="mailto:derrick@phonesource.ca" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">derrick@phonesource.ca
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<p>Guys,<br>
<br>
No need to get up in arms here. For obvious reasons price fixing is not<br>
the way to go here. This is my mistake for adding my two cents. At any <br>
rate different markets require different pricing structures so to all <br>
conform to one pricing structure does not make sense - this is what I<br>
meant originally.<br>
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/D<br>
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asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] On Behalf Of Paul<br>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:37 PM<br>
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion <br>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(<br>
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A literate person reading my first paragraph would see that my second <br>
paragraph is obvious sarcasm.<br>
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Aren't you the fool who suggested price fixing in this thread? What else <br>
would you expect? There is an old saying that there is no honor among<br>
thieves. Please let me join your stupid game so I can break the rules <br>
and cut your throat.<br>
<br>
bob murphy wrote:<br>
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