<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">API's are not expected to change more than once every OTHER release.<DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Rick Rinehart wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV>Microsoft is announcing the general availability of its Response Point phone system and has set this Friday, October 5, as the first day for customers to preorder systems from manufacturing partner Quanta Computer (<A title="http://www.tmcnet.com/snapshots/snapshots.aspx?Company=Quanta+Computer" href="http://www.tmcnet.com/snapshots/snapshots.aspx?Company=Quanta+Computer">News</A> - <A title="http://www.tmcnet.com/enews/subs.aspx?k1=Quanta" href="http://www.tmcnet.com/enews/subs.aspx?k1=Quanta">Alert</A>). <DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">According to Microsoft, Quanta-based packages will cost approximately $2,500 for a base unit with built-in analog telephone adapter (ATA) and secure gateway, plus four phones. Additional phones can be purchased for $159 each.</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">from: <A title="http://internetcommunications.tmcnet.com/topics/enterprise/articles/11693-microsoft-prices-response-point-smb-voip-solution.htm" href="http://internetcommunications.tmcnet.com/topics/enterprise/articles/11693-microsoft-prices-response-point-smb-voip-solution.htm">http://internetcommunications.tmcnet.com/topics/enterprise/articles/11693-microsoft-prices-response-point-smb-voip-solution.htm</A></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">-rick</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> </DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5"> <DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title="mailto:AFShin9@gmail.com" href="mailto:AFShin9@gmail.com">Seysan</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 11, 2007 20:59</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com" href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(</DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Does any Body knows the price of this Product?<BR><BR><BR> <DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 10/11/07, <B class="gmail_sendername">Aleks Clark</B> <<A title="mailto:aleks.clark@gmail.com" href="mailto:aleks.clark@gmail.com">aleks.clark@gmail.com</A>> wrote: </SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Alex, I concur. Like I said, I'm looking for the same thing that happened to the xbox to happen to their voip hardware. XBMC is great stuff, it's the reason I have an xbox (well, and halo ;) If in a year, I can get one of their systems for ~150 with some pstn hardware and a cool little lcd display, and put linux + oss voip on it, I'll be happy with MS for getting into VoIP :D <DIV><SPAN class="e" id="q_115919e11f3aa65c_1"><BR><BR> <DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 10/11/07, <B class="gmail_sendername">Alex Balashov</B> <<A title="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank"> abalashov@evaristesys.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"><BR>Yeah, but it has brand identity and well-defined, ubiquitous purpose and<BR>performance characteristics. Of course, as you rightly observe, that can<BR>have nothing to do with intrinsic merit or the monetisation aspect of <BR>market acceptance (as opposed to the "hype" aspect).<BR><BR>I would wager there is going to be a lot of noise about Microsoft<BR>telephony systems in the foreseeable future, due to its ability to<BR>engineer it. But it seems to me like a very inflexible small-office <BR>PBX; the moment any kind of sophistication or polymorphism is required,<BR>it's time to look elsewhere for something customisable, open-source and<BR>multifarious.<BR><BR>And VoIP is kind of like that - look at all the things we are doing with <BR>it every day that extend far, far outside the domain of traditional PBX<BR>expectations. Customised IVR systems, data acquisition interfaces, some<BR>degree of carrier network element functionality and switching,<BR>translation, routing, peering... a lot of the ingenuity of what is, in the<BR>end, a business-oriented Asterisk PBX system depends on the ability to<BR>flexibly integrate this type of functionality.<BR><BR>-- Alex<BR><BR>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, shadowym wrote:<BR><BR>> The Xbox is just a PC running gaming software for the consumer market. They<BR>> have remained committed to it for years and lost a lot of money in the<BR>> process. Despite what "impression" you may have by all the advertising and <BR>> hype, they continue to be spanked by Nintendo which sells 2 or 3 boxes for<BR>> every one Xbox. Or maybe it's the Sony or maybe both. Can't remember which<BR>> but Google will tell you.<BR>><BR>> The only reason people seem to want it is for online Halo so it's a one<BR>> trick pony. They just lost a billion dollars on that massive recall for<BR>> consoles going dead as well.<BR>><BR>> From: Aleks Clark [mailto: <A title="mailto:aleks.clark@gmail.com" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:aleks.clark@gmail.com" target="_blank">aleks.clark@gmail.com</A>]<BR>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:49 AM<BR>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion <BR>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :( <BR>><BR>> I dunno about the core competency...seems the Xbox is doing ok :D<BR>> On 10/11/07, Alex Balashov <<A title="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank"> abalashov@evaristesys.com</A><BR>> <mailto:<A title="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank"> abalashov@evaristesys.com</A>> > wrote:<BR>><BR>> Indeed. We should all so be so lucky as to have an R&D budget 1/128th of<BR>> that size. I've got lots of stuff I'd like to throw at the wall. I'm <BR>> sure you do too.<BR>><BR>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, shadowym wrote:<BR>><BR>>> I agree,<BR>>><BR>>> M$ is a blaster company. They blast the wall with all sorts of stuff to<BR>> see<BR>>> what sticks and if nothing much happens after a year or two they move on. <BR>>> The farther away they are from their core competency the less likey they<BR>>> will remain committed to making a good product and sticking with it. An<BR>> IP<BR>>> PBX is a LONG ways from their core compentency. <BR>>><BR>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>> From: Alex Balashov [mailto:<A title="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com" target="_blank">abalashov@evaristesys.com </A>]<BR>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:28 PM<BR>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<BR>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> I am not particularly beset with the impression that the VoIP business <BR>>> community has anything to fear from this product or the particular<BR>>> vendor's attempt to enter the space.<BR>>><BR>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Derrick Moennick wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> Looks like just another strong player entering into the IP telephony <BR>>>> world to make sure the world goes this route.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Derrick<BR>>>><BR>>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>>> From: <A title="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A><BR>>>> [mailto: <mailto:<A title="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com </A>><BR>> <A title="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target="_blank">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] On Behalf Of Michael S.<BR>>>> White<BR>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:57 PM<BR>>>> To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion' <BR>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(<BR>>>><BR>>>> I noticed this a while back - My thoughts were.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Hmmm. I'm sure it will only require 3-4 reboots a day! <BR>>>><BR>>>> Mike<BR>>>> <A title="http://www.8774e4voip.com/" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.8774e4voip.com" target="_blank">http://www.8774e4voip.com</A> <<A title="http://www.8774e4voip.com/" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.8774e4voip.com/" target="_blank"> http://www.8774e4voip.com/</A>><BR>>>><BR>>>> <BR>>>><BR>>>> Saysan Wrote-<BR>>>> <A title="http://www.microsoft.com/responsepoint/default.mspx" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.microsoft.com/responsepoint/default.mspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/responsepoint/default.mspx </A><BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>> -- <BR>>> Alex Balashov<BR>>> Evariste Systems<BR>>> Web : <A title="http://www.evaristesys.com/" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.evaristesys.com/" target="_blank">http://www.evaristesys.com/</A><BR>>> Tel : +1-678-954-0670<BR>>> Direct : +1-678-954-0671<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <A title="http://www.api-digital.com--/" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.api-digital.com--" target="_blank">http://www.api-digital.com-- </A><BR>>><BR>>> asterisk-biz mailing list<BR>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<BR>>> <A title="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz" target="_blank">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz </A><BR>>><BR>><BR>> --<BR>> Alex Balashov<BR>> Evariste Systems<BR>> Web : <A title="http://www.evaristesys.com/" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.evaristesys.com/" target="_blank">http://www.evaristesys.com/ </A><BR>> Tel : +1-678-954-0670<BR>> Direct : 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