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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sure you can... bigger, more direct
pipes. ;-) Well, okay, not exactly the same, but accomplished the
same goal.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>----<BR>Mike Hammett<BR>Intelligent Computing Solutions<BR><A
href="http://www.ics-il.com">http://www.ics-il.com</A></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Al.Bochter@bochterservices.com
href="mailto:Al.Bochter@bochterservices.com">Al Bochter</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">Commercial and Business-Oriented
Asterisk Discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [asterisk-biz] New Broadband
Phone Service</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>You can't control QOS over the web<BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">Best regards,
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid00a001c6fea6$1b7e5c10$037da8c0@pma type="cite"><PRE wrap="">What do you mean by QoS?
The ONLY reliable ITSP service is one that is able to offer end to end QoS.
In other words, TDM circuits so your basically back to using the PSTN again.
An internet connection that is geographically near to(therefore few hops)the
PSTN connection is ok for some but it will never replace a traditional phone
connection for many businesses.
There are zero guarantees if your part of general internet traffic no matter
how close you are. Some day the backbone ISP providers may all offer end to
end IP QoS options within their networks and from one to another but I don't
see that happening anytime soon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Henry.L.Coleman [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:henry.coleman@voip-pbx.ca">mailto:henry.coleman@voip-pbx.ca</A>]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:20 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] New Broadband Phone Service
I sorry but I have to disagree. There are many businesses that can use VoIP,
have a good QOS and save tons of money.
Henry L.Coleman CEO
*VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355
Toronto Ontario
Canada
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">If both sides are on decent connections (especially same carrier),
then you should be fine. I agree that the fewest hops wins, but its
not complete junk over the public Internet.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.ics-il.com">http://www.ics-il.com</A>
----- Original Message -----
From: Kerry Garrison
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] New Broadband Phone Service
Why do we need to promote voip adoption? Its not as reliable and
suffers from call quality issues. The people that are running around
screaming about promoting VoIP (as in ITSP's) are actually doing more
harm than good to the market. The only reliable VoIP service is if you
are getting it directly from your circuit carrier so it never goes out
onto the open internet. If you want to play in that space as a
residential user, then be my guest, but in the business market where
companies have to rely on their phone service to be up and actually be
able to use their phones, then VoIP is not the right choice today. So
NO, we should not do anything we can to promote it.
Kerry Garrison
Director of Technical Services
Tech Data Pros - Business IT Solutions
(949) 502-7819 x200 - <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:kgarrison@techdatapros.com">kgarrison@techdatapros.com</A>
<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.techdatapros.com">http://www.techdatapros.com</A>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap=""> From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] On Behalf Of Marnus van
Niekerk
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:42 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] New Broadband Phone Service
s/broadband phone service/mlm scheme/
Agreed, but don't you think it is about time we use whatever we
possibly could to promote voip adoption :-)
M
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