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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanking you GlobalOfficePhone,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Typical server of about 4000
USD with Dual Xeon, 4Gb should deliver 120 concurrent
calls while supporting other services. Of course this should be benchmarked
if you wish to rely on this. We do with all our appliances.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If your customers are in a normal business
environment and not a call center, you should expect about 1 in 7 to be
making a phone call as a peak. This was the ratio I referred to.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>120 * 7 = 800+</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(of course the above is very simplified from a
technical aspect, but hope there is some insight to different business
models)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Steve</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=globalofficephone@gmail.com
href="mailto:globalofficephone@gmail.com">GlobalOfficePhone</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">Commercial and Business-Oriented
Asterisk Discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 05, 2006 3:37
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [asterisk-biz] RE: Bottom
end of the market for an Asterisk PBX ?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>Hello Steve:<BR><BR>Good
insight.<BR>Can you please clarify what you mean by 1:7
ratio?<BR>Thanks.<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/5/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Stephen
Wingfield</B> <<A href="mailto:steve@bicom.us">steve@bicom.us</A>>
wrote: </SPAN><BR>
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a ratio of 1:7 you can typically support 800+ users on the same
server<BR>for under 4000 USD investment (or 5 USD per customer for the
hardware).</BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>Good insight.<BR>Can you please clarify what you mean by 1:7
ratio?<BR> </DIV><BR>
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Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Curt Shaffer" <<A
href="mailto:cshaffer@gmail.com">cshaffer@gmail.com</A>><BR>To:
"'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'"<BR><<A
href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">
asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</A>><BR>Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:50
PM<BR>Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] RE: Bottom end of the market for an
Asterisk PBX<BR>?<BR><BR><BR>>I would have to agree here as well. Just
because you can install * on a <BR>>good<BR>> cheap system does not
mean that you want to. I really think if Asterisk is<BR>> going to be a
competitor in the VoIP market we really need to make sure it<BR>> shines.
We can not just be "throwing" together a system that will get the <BR>>
job done. We need to plan these installs, give good quality phones
and<BR>> provide redundancy if possible. When was the last time the
company's<BR>> POTS/PRI lines went down? When they pick up the phone they
expect, and <BR>> rightfully so, for it to work. I all too often hear
people getting by with<BR>> just the essentials and I would bet that
there are a lot of unhappy<BR>> customers out there with it. I know of a
few personally where the company <BR>> now has a bad taste in their mouth
about VoIP because some "Asterisk Guru"<BR>> came in and saved them
thousands on their phone system. What they were<BR>> left<BR>> with
was choppy quality because of lack of QoS and horrible echo. And IP <BR>>
termination, which was supposed to save them money, was sub par and down
a<BR>> lot. Lack of needed configuration and bad choice of providers?
Probaby,<BR>> but<BR>> they ditched the system and dubbed VoIP as a
technology that is not ready <BR>> for prime time. This really gets me
going....arg!<BR>><BR>>>From what I have seen and been selling is
features. Even to small<BR>> businesses. Yes you will get a system that
is a little cheaper than Avaya, <BR>> Cisco or 3Com, although this is
getting not to be the case with items such<BR>> as Avaya's new phone that
acts like a small PBX. Yes you MAY be able to<BR>> save<BR>> some
money on long distance with LCR. But, this IVR will allow you to <BR>>
field<BR>> phone calls via the phone system and provide customers with
valuable<BR>> information without a person spending time on the phone
with them. This<BR>> find<BR>> me follow me will make sure someone can
always reach you. This <BR>> conferencing<BR>> will save you on
expensive bridges and hosted solutions. This XML app on<BR>> your phone
will allow your employees to log into your time card app. This<BR>>
system will integrate your voicemail and email into the same inbox. This
<BR>> is<BR>> all about convergence! Anyone can beat the cost of a
traditional PBX these<BR>> days, yes even Cisco with their new Call
Manager Express! You need to make<BR>> the customer feel, and you won't
be lying, that they need a full system <BR>> and<BR>> to invest in
this. Show them the real money savings! Even a high end<BR>> Asterisk
system is cheaper then most of the others. I'll get off my
soap<BR>> box for now. I just hate when people make probably the least
important <BR>> things about Asterisk the most important and vis a
vis.<BR>><BR>> Someone mentioned a model like hosting. I think if your
customers are<BR>> really<BR>> concerned about pricing of the system,
despite your good sales tactics, <BR>> then<BR>> this may be the best
idea. At that point you can provide the redundancy<BR>> they<BR>> need
and maintain everything on your end. The only problem I see here is<BR>>
you<BR>> want to make absolutely sure that you are not the cause of
failure. This <BR>> would mean clustering, this would mean battery backup
with generator back<BR>> up<BR>> on that. This would be a reliable
high speed connection for both you and<BR>> them, think about what the
phone company does to make sure you have dial <BR>> tone even when the
power is out! What about E911! You don't want to be<BR>> responsible for
a person dying(like happened near here in Maryland,USA).<BR>> But<BR>>
it could be done. I do believe with the architecture that should be built
<BR>> on<BR>> this model, it would take some time to get your return
on investment but<BR>> if<BR>> this is where most of your clients
would like to be then it may be worth<BR>> it.<BR>><BR>><BR>>
Just my 2 cents. <BR>><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From:
<A
href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A><BR>>
[mailto:<A href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">
asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] On Behalf Of C F<BR>> Sent:
Monday, July 03, 2006 11:34 PM<BR>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented
Asterisk Discussion<BR>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] RE: Bottom end of
the market for an Asterisk <BR>> PBX<BR>> ?<BR>><BR>> Yeah sure
think again. There is no way that you can sell a system with<BR>> 5
phones for $1500.00 just the phones (at around $160 per phone for a<BR>>
decent business phone) will cost you $800.00. <BR>> You think ppl buy
these things like they buy bread? think again.<BR>><BR>> On 7/3/06,
Nikolai Manek <<A
href="mailto:manek@nikotel.com">manek@nikotel.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>
Hi,<BR>>><BR>>> You want to charge $5000 for a small biz
Asterisk server? Yes, you <BR>>> definitely need to rethink your
strategy. I would rather think that $1500<BR>> is<BR>>> the
absolute maximum. For very small companies (5-15) you can put a<BR>>
Asterisk<BR>>> on a Linksys router with Linux. I think there are some
projects you can <BR>>> Google up who are doing it. And then your
customers will figure out very<BR>>> quick that they can get your PBX
for a couple hundred bucks including<BR>>> service from someone. Why
don't you set up some Astersik servers yourself <BR>>> and offer
hosted Asterisk? This way you can charge a monthly fee, your<BR>>>
customers don't have the headache of running their own server and
you<BR>>> will<BR>>> make over time your $5000 without
overcharging people (which is IMHO not <BR>> the<BR>>> way to do
business). You might want to google around and see what other<BR>>>
people are charging. But my educated guess would be that a small
business<BR>> is<BR>>> very much willing to pay let's say $20 per
seat per month and have their <BR>>> service hosted with you. On top
you are selling the minutes at approx.<BR>>> 55%<BR>>> margin in
the UK for international calls and probably 70% for domestic<BR>>>
calls. Then you can make money and your customers are very happy too. You
<BR>>> can bill the service with our new Asterisk billing solution
(it's free)<BR>>> (<A
href="http://www.remwave.com">www.remwave.com</A>) which will be released by
the end of the week or any<BR>> other<BR>>> billing platform. I am
also thinking that a hosted solution is better for<BR>>> your business
bottom line since it will enable you to have a consistent<BR>>>
revenue stream.<BR>>><BR>>> Best <BR>>><BR>>>
Nikolai Manek<BR>>> <A
href="http://www.remwave.com">http://www.remwave.com</A><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>
On 7/3/06 6:30 PM, "<A href="mailto:asterisk-biz-request@lists.digium.com">
asterisk-biz-request@lists.digium.com</A>"<BR>>> <<A
href="mailto:asterisk-biz-request@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-request@lists.digium.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> > Bottom end of the market for an Asterisk
PBX ? <BR>>><BR>>>
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