<HTML><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff" STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;color:#000000; background-color:#ffffff; "><DIV>Wouldn't you just need to provide the IP address then? Surely the government can't force you to record calls</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Moshe Maeir</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:43 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [asterisk-biz] FCC ruling that requires all VoIP providerstomakewiretapping</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>On Asterisk, as far as I understand there is no physical "wire tap" - all you need is to record calls in the system!<BR><BR>William Piper wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE cite=midc6d582ca0606130625t49588305hbce7e8118af30846@mail.gmail.com type="cite"> <DIV>Can anyone tell me what is involved in a wire tap on a VoIP line? Wouldn't the monitor command in the manager API work, or is it more involved than that?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>bp<BR><BR> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 6/13/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Charles Vance</B> <<A href="mailto:cbvance@msn.com">cbvance@msn.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"> <DIV> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; FONT: 10pt verdana; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"> <DIV>As long as the wiretap is done on the basis of a curt order having sufficient probable cause it is no different than what government and law enforcement has been doing for years, but this new homeland security crap of doing taps without anyone in the judiciary approving it is unlawful and nobody should bend to it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial"><B>From:</B> Dean Collins</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:56 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B> Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [asterisk-biz] FCC ruling that requires all VoIP providers tomakewiretapping capabilities available to the U.S. government</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It's just part of doing business, as long as everyone has to participate whats it matter.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dean</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target=_blank>asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A> [mailto:<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com" target=_blank> asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Lacy Moore - Aspendora<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, 13 June 2006 3:03 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [asterisk-biz] FCC ruling that requires all VoIP providers tomake wiretapping capabilities available to the U.S. government</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></P></DIV> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV> <P><SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 6/11/06, <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Mike Lynchfield</SPAN></B> <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:theclubvoip@gmail.com" target=_blank> theclubvoip@gmail.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </P> <DIV> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Others involved in opposing the decision fear that the cost of implementing the wiretapping capabilities may wind up being passed on to the consumer. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Unless they are producing their own currency, and I seriously doubt any CEO of a major company would take a pay cut just to implement this in the name of being a true patriot or anything. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 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