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I see both sides of this but.. <br>
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I think the point others were trying to make is this.. <br>
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It's all fine and good to send only traffic that's expensive to
terminate to a blended rate carrier until the blended rate carrier
starts losing money. Once all the blended rate providers quit offering
the blended rates because of this then you will start seeing things
like .06/minute to certain areas like Maine where it actually cost this
much to terminate traffic.<br>
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The reason it's rare to see a rate like that is not because it's cheap
to terminate everywhere, it's because companies offer reasonable rates
to these areas and actually lose money on the calls. How can they do
this? They can lose money on these calls because they make a profit
when terminating to the less expensive areas.<br>
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If you only send a blended rate providers the expensive calls, they
will only lose money forcing them to offer tiered services only which
is a hassle to most of the smaller players.<br>
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When purchasing a flat rate TDM circuits, the carrier is going to hold
you to an 80/20 RBOB/Non RBOC clause. This clause was mentioned earlier
in this thread but I thought I would explain it for those that are not
familiar with the term.<br>
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Before I can explain this you have to know what an RBOC and a NON RBOC
is.. <br>
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RBOC = Regional Bell Operating Carrier<br>
Non RBOC = A small telco in a one horse town that can and will rake
anyone and everyone including other phone companies over the coals when
they try to terminate a call to their one horse town.<br>
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So then, an 80/20 rule means that the calls you send to your carrier
must be to RBOC locations at least 80% of the time. This is to protect
them from offering a low blended rate where they expect average and
customary blended usage and getting hurt financially by having a
customer only send them the traffic they lose money on.<br>
<br>
Nothing wrong with VoicePulse offering the LCR macro but there is also
nothing wrong with others learning the possible pitfalls of using it in
conjunction with a blended rate carrier TDM or otherwise.<br>
<br>
I am not taking sides here, just thought a clear explanation would
help.. <br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Regards,
Todd Routhier
VoIP Street
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.VoIPstreet.com">http://www.VoIPstreet.com</a></pre>
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Paul wrote:
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<pre wrap="">trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 03:35 -0400, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:alex@pilosoft.com">alex@pilosoft.com</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">The point I am making is that if you are doing LCR and 'cherrypicking',
the blended-rate provider is getting screwed.
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<pre wrap="">yeah, in a different post he just wanted to know what the program was.
If you think about how competitive business can be though its not a bad
thing to set up a situation where your competition has to raise rates or
go under and when you make money its not just that your competition isnt
for that good/service but that it makes it harder for your competition
to survive in their chosen business model.
I have to give kudos to them for that. Its rare when a company can put
themselves into a position where they can not just take business away
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<pre wrap=""><!---->>from their competition but also cause harm to their competition at the
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<pre wrap="">same exact time.
If anyone feels this is not appropriate, to them I say this is
asterisk-biz not asterisk-communist-hippie and if its legal you shouldnt
really knock someone for creating a business model that conflicts with
someone elses chosen business model.
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<pre wrap=""><!---->The program is designed to save the customer money. Maybe that harms
competitors who won't give me those savings? Too bad.
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