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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=139361600-23012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The trademark protects our name. It doesn't stop
anyone from building a similar device but it would give us some legal remedy if
you called it a VS-1. Maybe Bret can give Manny the quick
rundown on trademark law?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=139361600-23012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>You can copy the box but you still won't have a VS-1.
A big part of what makes a VS-1 is the software in it and the company that
stands behind it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=139361600-23012006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>BTW, We don't use AMP and we don't use
Astlinux. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=139361600-23012006><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-Mike</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Manny A. Wise
[mailto:mannywise@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:12
PM<BR><B>To:</B> asterisk-biz@thevoipconnection.com; 'Commercial and
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [asterisk-biz] VS-1T
Claiming "Trademark" on Hardware<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I guess no-one can
build a system like yours?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What about showing us
your “trade mark”????</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Home / Asterisk /
VS-1™ Asterisk PBX Voice Server ,<= right off you
website!!!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I bet you use AMP for
GUI….</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The very first unit I
build I am going to call it..VS-1 at least Xorcom call it
TS-1</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Wait a second, better
yet,… I buy a unit from you, take it to china…mass produce it…uhmmm,
tenting…jajajajaj</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Manny</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>The VoIP
Connection<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday,
January 22, 2006 6:57 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk
TS-1</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bill,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well,
it's pretty much impossible to argue with that assertion. I would
not claim that it isn't obvious, only that it's a good idea and
we did it first. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My main
point is that it can be tricky to make these things work properly, and we
have a production tested product.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->Michael
Crown</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Managing Partner</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.thevoipconnection.com</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">321.989.6728 ext.
611</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">sip:611@voiceserver.thevoipconnection.com</SPAN></FONT>
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face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Bill
Michaelson [mailto:bill@cosi.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:43
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Commercial and
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk
TS-1</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Your device looks like a
good product. But I suspect that many, if not most of the subscribers
to this list regard the concept as pretty obvious. I think you are
indulging in a conceit to declare the Xorcom device to be an imitation of
your product, regardless of how long you've been selling it.<BR><BR>The VoIP
Connection wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The TS-1 is a pretty transparent attempt to cash in on the success of our</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">VS-1 Asterisk Voice Server. Of course, imitation is the sincerest form of</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">flattery, but flash-based systems have to be designed correctly or they</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">won't last. If you want something that has been proven in production for</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">almost two years now, take a look at the original:</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A href="http://www.thevoipconnection.com/store/catalog/product_16214_VS1trade_Asteri">http://www.thevoipconnection.com/store/catalog/product_16214_VS1trade_Asteri</A></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">sk_PBX_Voice_Server.html</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">These machines have enough horsepower to handle a small business. The VS-1</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">provides additional storage for configuration, voicemail, CDR's, log files,</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">etc. -Mike</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Michael Crown</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Managing Partner</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A href="http://www.thevoipconnection.com">www.thevoipconnection.com</A></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">321.989.6728 ext. 611</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A href="mailto:sip:611@voiceserver.thevoipconnection.com">sip:611@voiceserver.thevoipconnection.com</A></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt" type="cite"><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" wrap=""><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From: Jean-Michel Hiver [<A href="mailto:jhiver@ykoz.net">mailto:jhiver@ykoz.net</A>] </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:00 AM</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk TS-1</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This unit looks nice:</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A href="http://www.xorcom.com/ts-1/features.html">http://www.xorcom.com/ts-1/features.html</A></SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">It's not very powerful but I'm sure it's more than enough as </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">a clever SOHO end point, say to manage SIP phones properly. </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You probably still have to do voicemail IP-centrex style though.</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Any ideas about pricing?</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE 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