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Yep, that was their words. I tried to convince them that it is a
nonsense and even it is Open Source, the only one company<br>
standing behind the Asterisk (Digium), but their was firm on their
point of view.<br>
Probably they don't want to screw up their sales of their partners =)<br>
I don't know. I just passed here what I heard. The guy who I was talk
to, told me that he having 5-10 calls a day regarding<br>
Asterisk, but still unconvinced. =)<br>
<br>
Alex Pui wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">What do you
mean by “they not allow”
do they have to check which softswitch I will use before they sell me
the
phones?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Alex<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Sergey Kuznetsov<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> February 11,
2005 4:20 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Commercial and
Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Asterisk-biz]
Business Phones</span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I had conversation with
Polycom licensing guy.<br>
They not allow to buy Polycom IP phones for softswitches who is not
certified
by them.<br>
Asterisk is not certified. =(<br>
I did ask him why is that, and he answered that customers in case of
the issues
with softswitch<br>
looking for Polycom logo on the phone and calls to Polycom customer
service.<br>
He told me also that they played with Asterisk, but they are not ready
to
certify it.<br>
I think it can be just political issue, not the business one.<br>
I don't know if I can buy it somewhere else, but price at Ingram Micro
is very
attractive. =(<br>
<br>
I don't know if I can find any good IP phones, as good as Polycom or
Cisco, but
in the price range of Polycom<br>
IP 300.<br>
<br>
<br>
Dave Chase wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Kenneth<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">We've had very good results from Polycom - their IP300/IP500/IP700<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">product line. I've found IP300 for around $130, IP500 for around $180<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">and IP700 for $230 from a supplier in <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chicago</st1:place></st1:City>. Quick response and ship<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">times.. Very flexible. One of the nicest features is the integration<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">with their SoundStation line (conf room product). Can be auto programmed<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">from Asterisk server via a FTP setup... nice... incredible sound<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">quality.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a
href="http://polycom.com/products_services/0,1443,pw-34-182,00.html">http://polycom.com/products_services/0,1443,pw-34-182,00.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Dave Chase<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Capability 5, Inc<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Houston</span></font></st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">TX</st1:State> <st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">(281) 488-9011<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <a
href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">[<a
href="mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com</a>] On Behalf Of Alistair<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Cunningham<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:11 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="mailto:kelong_2000@yahoo.com">kelong_2000@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Business Phones<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Kenneth,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Without a doubt, Cisco phones are the best if you're willing to pay the <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">money. 7960s are very powerful - up to 6 lines, XML services running <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">directly on the phone, and lots of call handling features. 7970s also <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">have a colour touch screen display, but in my opinion, don't offer <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">enough over 7960s to make the extra cost worthwhile. 7940s are the same <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">as 7960s, but with only 2 line / quick dial buttons. I've worked on <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">quite a few VoIP projects within IBM, and they're rolling out 7960s and <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">7940s to all users.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Avaya phones are not bad, though not as good as Cisco. I've only ever <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">seen them attached to an Avaya IP PBX, not standalone (though it may be <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">possible to run them standalone). Siemens VoIP phones are similar <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">quality. They're both on par with the better small brands, such as SNOM,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">and considerably better than Grandstream.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">If you'd like more details, or a formal commercial recommendation, let <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">me know off-list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Alistair Cunningham,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Integrics Ltd,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Telephony, Database, Unix consulting worldwide<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">+44 (0)7870 699 479<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="http://integrics.com/">http://integrics.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Kenneth Long wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">What are the "best" business phones for use with<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Asterisk?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Something from major brand names like cisco or avaya? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">or is there Anything less mainstream reasonable?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">When I say business phone, I mean a phone with <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">business features. I have a small office with eight<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">phones.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Ken<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">__________________________________ <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Do you Yahoo!? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo">http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Asterisk-Biz mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="mailto:Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com">Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><a
href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Asterisk-Biz mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="mailto:Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com">Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
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href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">Asterisk-Biz mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="mailto:Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com">Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">All the Best!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">Sergey.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">=========================<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">Sergey Kuznetsov<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">President/CEO<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> High Intellectual Technologies, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> Web: <a
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> E-mail: <a
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style="font-size: 10pt;">Business phone: (416) 548-9700<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"> Mobile phone: (647) 287-8448<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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