[asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! ( Partners )

[C F]

That means you would need over 7000 ppl talking 24 hours straight
(10449969/1440 minutes per day)
Sell the crap to someone else

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Yaro Donchenko <yaro at ovetel.com> wrote:

> More over based on they August LCR report India - Mobile 313,499,083
> Minutes it is 10,449,969.43 Min per day this is easy can be archived with 5
> clients who has some type of ethnic community product.
>
> You don't need to be supper guru to build this type of volume! You just
> need to know people who can bring this volume to you and I'm sure Yaro at
> Ovetel knows this type of people.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Gray Routes <grayroutes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you sure you know what you talking about? Do you know how wholesale
>> works at all?
>>
>> Lets see perfect sample let say you have 500000 completed calls per day to
>> India Mobile with an average ACD of 8 Min.
>> Here is a total for you 4,000,000 minutes per day just a single route.
>>
>> Now the company sell over 2000 different routes I'm pretty sure they know
>> what they doing.
>>
>> So before saying some is lie you should think twice and not make your self
>> look like a fool.
>>
>> And Ovetel does not need to have 3000 or 100000 customers to achieve this
>> volume it is easy can be done with less then 5 decent calling card clients
>> like IDT or STI.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM, C F <shmaltz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All arguments aside I believe the claim that they process 2 billion
>>> minutes (http://www.ovetel.com/partners.html) is a lie. here is why:
>>> There are 525600 minutes in a year (60*24*365), which makes 2,000,000,000
>>> minutes over 3805 years (2000000000/525600).
>>> Lets take 300,000,000 americans, every american would have to use close
>>> to 7 minutes (6.666 to be exact, 2000000000/300000000) with Ovetel for them
>>> to have that volume or
>>> 3 million would have to use 666 minutes, or 300000 would have to use 6666
>>> minutes, or 30000 would have to use 66666 minutes or 3000 would have to use
>>> 666666 minutes (close to a million). Ovetel guys do you have 3000 customers
>>> with over 100k minutes? or 100k customers with over 3k minutes? I doubt it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Michael Schwartzman <
>>> carrierroutes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is my 2 cents this guys who claim to be a Vlad does not look like
>>>> to be a voip consultant from Dubai, based on headers of emails here what
>>>> information was obtained:
>>>>
>>>> *Received: from TarikPC (76-253-3-118.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net
>>>> [76.253.3.118]);*
>>>>
>>>> So look like this "Vlad" is based in Sunnyvale California. I think it
>>>> has to be one of Ovetel competitors who has problems competing with them.
>>>>
>>>> Based on a simple google search:
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=Tarik+Sunnyvale+California&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=OaO&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Tarik+Voip+Sunnyvale+CA&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=7b3e9e0669ddb0a1
>>>>
>>>> Here what information was obtained:
>>>>
>>>> Tarik Lakabi
>>>>
>>>> Speaks:: English, Arabic, French
>>>>
>>>> Region:: Middle East, Asia, Africa, Egypt, Libya, South America, Europe
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo Messenger: tariktalk2globe
>>>> Email: tarik at talk2globe.com
>>>>
>>>> Source: http://www.tmxvoip.net/contact-us.html
>>>>
>>>> So now we know who is Vlad :). I hope Ovetel lawyers will take some
>>>> action with a good reaction.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vlad
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt you even have the right to expect such, after acting like a
>>>>> child in a public forum
>>>>> highly unprofessional even under the circumstances, also kinda
>>>>> slanderous if you ask me.
>>>>>  Maybe you should prove you have a business relationship with them also
>>>>> as you so claim.
>>>>> Honestly, my preference would be that you just shut up and go away
>>>>> though. Its kinda sad
>>>>> actually to see a grown man, if you are, act with such behaviors in a
>>>>> public forum. Its practically
>>>>> embarrassing to watch you behave in such a manner. I know 5 year olds
>>>>> who have more character
>>>>> then you have displayed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Vlad Shoz <vladshoz at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josef, FYI.:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1st - This is a BIZ list. Any business related to VOIP/Asterisk or
>>>>>> termination can be discusses here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2nd - If you don't want participate from this thread or don't agree
>>>>>> - don't post comments. be quiet!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3rd - I am waiting Ovetel comment or proofs showing agreement with
>>>>>> Swisscom
>>>>>> and Tata as they claimed to have. Easy to solve this. Don't you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On *Tue, 9/21/10, Josef Grand <josef.grand2 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Josef Grand <josef.grand2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! ( Partners )
>>>>>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <
>>>>>> asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 4:39 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you muhamad for your reply
>>>>>> good answer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meftah Tayeb
>>>>>> TMVoip Inc
>>>>>> http://www.awesomevoip.org
>>>>>> +33178768323
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> *From:* Muhammad Shomail Haider<http://mc/compose?to=shomail@crystalconsulting.pk>
>>>>>> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<http://mc/compose?to=asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 9:32 AM
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! (
>>>>>> Partners )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please leave this topic aside now.Vlad, you have informed everyone
>>>>>> what you feel once, now it's up to them if they want to do business with
>>>>>> ovetel or not you don't have to keep on irritating everyone bigging of every
>>>>>> week. And please keep the professional attitude here so this list can stay
>>>>>> clean and doesn't become garbage like most of the other lists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shomail
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Gray Routes <grayroutes at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=grayroutes@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vlad (if it is your real name) why you hate so much Yaro and Ovetel?
>>>>>> Because he did not let you suck his dick?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it is just a hate of competition! I understand it is hard when
>>>>>> you see your competitors growing fast and you only sucking dicks. So my
>>>>>> advice to you would be stop sucking dicks homo and writing this bullshit
>>>>>> here get a life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ovetel is very reputable company and many of us here in Asterisk-Biz
>>>>>> doing business with Ovetel we don't care who they work with is it a TATA or
>>>>>> SwissCom we only care that they provide us with what we need and this is
>>>>>> most important.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From my personal experience Yaro is a man of his word, he delivers
>>>>>> always on time what he promises.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ovetel keep up a good work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Vlad Shoz <vladshoz at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=vladshoz@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Hello Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here we go again telling the truth about OVETEL.!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ovetel.com/partners.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sr. Yaro, claims to have lot of international agreements with 400
>>>>>> partners ; i contacted
>>>>>> some of those "partners", like TATA and SwissCom who i have business
>>>>>> relationship and they don't have any kind agreement with ovetel. Ovetel is
>>>>>> not customer from them!!.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yaro, if you buy minutes from carriers who are connected with them ;
>>>>>> don't give you rights to exposure those telcos which you don't have
>>>>>> agreements! Don't be a fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You´re trying to create fake ovetel 'reputation'. But i am 100% sure
>>>>>> all guys from asterisk-biz have experience and know exacly what you are.
>>>>>> Work from home
>>>>>> with fake e-mails ( creating fake employees ) to say - ovetel have at
>>>>>> least 5 people
>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come on Yaro, say the truth to everybody :) It´s better to be a small
>>>>>> and honest voip broker. working from home is not so bad, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think about this.! Be honest!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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