[asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight

Wes Reece wreece79 at gmail.com
Sat May 9 10:50:22 CDT 2009


Yea I hear that. I've got a deal on some hosted servers if anyone is
interested let me know.

$150 / Month for Dell PowerEdges

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Michael Kaspar
<michael.j.kaspar at gmail.com>wrote:

>  It’s the new economy and if your not aspng everything you missed the
> boat.  Keep trying to sell CPE or build in house and your dead.  Hosted is
> the way to go.  You build it I’ll sell.
>
>
>
> MK
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:
> asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Wes Reece
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:29 AM
>
> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
>
>
>
> they're all out to get me aren't they ;)
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:37 AM, ContactTel Business <lists at contacttel.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ahahah nice one, there is something we all call ethics, but hey, how can
> you trust your local grocery store, maybe they poisoning you with
> genetically mod’ed food, or aspartame, maybe there is a conspiracy with oil
> prices, maybe our wives actually don’t work and all have affairs with the
> colo guy as well, why  doesn’t the foreign support guy from your
> landline/cable service just use your account to download stuff or call ?
>
> you def need to trust someone ,
>
>
>
>  somewhere, else you’re on your own, and that means no business, as the
> word itself defined
>
> “It is in the 16th century that we also first find the specific sense of
> "trade; commercial transactions or engagements"”
>
>
>
> *From:* asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:
> asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Wes Reece
> *Sent:* April-07-09 11:59 PM
>
>
> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
>
>
>
> Its interesting that most people prefer colo. I dont know why but I'm
> afraid of trusting other people with my operations or data. The thought of
> the colo employee, sending out millions of voip calls from my box perhapse.
> How did you guys over come this fear? or am I just being too paranoid?
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Stephane Bakhos <
> voip-asterisk at maximumcrm.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, we use these in our most critical servers.
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, ContactTel Business wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:29:10 -0400
> > From: ContactTel Business <lists at contacttel.com>
>
> > Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
> >     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
> >
> > Steph, you talking about
> > http://www.ami.com/products/product.cfm?CatID=4&SubID=32&prodid=196 ?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Stephane
> Bakhos
> > Sent: April-07-09 7:52 PM
> > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
> >
> > If you are starting out in business colocation is usually the cheapest
> > option. you won't have to worry about all of the hassle related to
> running
> > an actual data center.
> >
> > There are a lot of colocation providers out there, unfortunately the
> > various experiences I had only proved that cost is not the best metric
> for
> > reliability.
> >
> > I do however recommend that you have in house technical staff and not to
> > rely on the staff of whichever colocation center you select. Or at the
> > very least make sure you work with a dependable contractor that can
> > respond to emergencies.
> >
> > If that isn't an option, invest in a lights-out remote management card to
> > plug your server in (www.ami.com has some ok ones).
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Max Clark wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:27:34 -0700
> >> From: Max Clark <max.clark at gmail.com>
> >> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> >> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >>     <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Co-location vs Build Out Insight
> >>
> >> There are a lot of pieces to this puzzle. Examples:
> >>
> >> - For some companies the $1,000/sq foot average construction costs
> >> keep the idea of building an in house datacenter off the table.
> >> - For small (100 sq foot) installations it's reasonable to purchase a
> >> medium sized UPS and HVAC for the computer room - the nightmare is
> >> getting a generator installed and a permit for the exhaust and fuel
> >> storage.
> >> - Even installing fiber into your office
> >> (http://www.phyber.com/ip/#ontap) doesn't give you the rapid scale of
> >> being able to order new GigE/10Gig circuits overnight at a colo.
> >>
> >> How much would it cost your business per hour of downtime? Could you
> >> survive if you lost service to your building for two days?
> >>
> >> For most it is way easier/cheaper to colocate the equipment.
> >>
> >> -Max
> >>
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