[asterisk-biz] Dear Termination Providers,

Tim Panton thp at westhawk.co.uk
Fri May 1 09:52:44 CDT 2009


On 27 Apr 2009, at 21:03, Peter Beckman wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Miles Scruggs wrote:
>
>> I think you maybe shocked to see what a full rate deck actually looks
>> like. A complete deck (if it is competitive) can be upwards of  
>> 300,000
>> lines.  If you have a termination provider that is selling US 48 at a
>> flat rate with no restrictions they either aren't doing it to every
>> market, or it is way over priced.   (If anyone out there wants to
>> terminate the US 48 with no restrictions for $0.01/min I have a  
>> little
>> over 1,000,000 per day to send you)
>>
>> What really gets me is all the different ways that international is
>> done, and the fact that most sheets give you names instead of dialing
>> codes.  Names are next to useless when trying to rate a call and  
>> every
>> carrier has a different name for each dialing code compared to the
>> next carrier out there.  In short being competitive with your rates,
>> and billing calls isn't not trivial which is why some billing  
>> software
>> alone runs upwards of $100,000.
>>
>> None of these are great reasons for not publishing a deck, but the
>> average person buying termination doesn't want to bother with a
>> 300,000 line long rate deck.
>
>  That's ok -- don't publish it!  But when I'm your customer, I want  
> your
>  rates, all of them, in a computer-digestable format, and easily  
> updatable.
>  If you are giving me a flat rate, I want to see that in the rate  
> deck.  If
>  you want to publish something different to the public, great!  But  
> as a
>  customer, I want the full rate deck for EVERY destination  
> supported, so I
>  don't have to manually update the rates you left out because you  
> didn't
>  consider the US worthy of inclusion.
>
>  I understand some do full npanxx, but most I deal with (I'm a small  
> fry
>  compared to your 1M minutes per day) give me a flat blended rate,  
> and I
>  want to know what I can and cannot terminate to and at what cost.
>
>


Teliax have (had?) this web service that you can call with a number
and it returns the rate in xml.

They also publish their rates as csv files so you can import them.

Tim.


Tim Panton - Web/VoIP consultant and implementor
www.westhawk.co.uk



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