[asterisk-biz] India Route Available

C. Savinovich c.savinovich at itntelecom.com
Fri Sep 5 13:26:58 CDT 2008


Alex:

   I would say that the term "gray/white route" only applies to
international routes.  They can and are used by larger carriers that have
the ability to closely monitor their performance, and can substitute them on
the spot the moment the route goes down or drops in quality, which they
invariably do.  Basically, they are to be enjoyed while they last.
Personally, I hate to see a provider sell me a grey route for the price of a
white one... to me, it is a reason to pull the plug on them on the spot.

C. Savinovich


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Alex Balashov
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:59 PM
To: trixter at 0xdecafbad.com; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] India Route Available

What about domestic US48 routes where the call is legal to terminate, 
but where the ANI / CLID must be obscured so that the carrier into which 
the call terminates and the ILEC through whose tandem the call transits 
does not actually realise that the call is out-of-state / inter-LATA, 
because the ICA of the carrier doing the termination is intra-LATA 
bill-and-keep and/or settlement-free?  Would that be a "grey" route?

Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:

> On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 19:05 -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
>> Forgive the naivete - what is a white route?
> 
> white is fully legal, you generally get CLID and other goodies that way.
> 
> Black is not legal, you usually get random drop outs, the carrier
> randomly drops the route, etc.  This includes everything from stolen
> service, people getting service on credit and not paying their bill,
> operation in places where its not legal to do voip so they obfuscate
> where the call originated from, etc.
> 
> Grey is somewhere in between, its shady but not overtly illegal and the
> quality can be sketchy.  These can also vanish instantly without
> warning.  Some times its just an abuse of a stupid carrier who will
> figure things out at some point, and sometimes they use clever games to
> reduce the price of the call through methods that may not always work.
> 
> With that said there are some black routes that have amazing quality,
> there are some white that have poor quality.  
> 
> 


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