[asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job

Wed Nov 12 21:21:57 CST 2008

Hey Drew, Andy should get his shit together and bid on projects at
99designs.

If he's got a half decent portfolio there is plenty of work to bid on
there.

Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Inc
dean at cognation.net
<mailto:dean at cognation.net> +1-212-203-4357   New York
+61-2-9016-5642   (Sydney in-dial).
+44-20-3129-6001 (London in-dial).

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From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Drew Gibson
Sent: Wednesday, 12 November 2008 4:21 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job

Hey Dean,

I think we're trying to find work for ANDY here! :-)

regards,

Drew

Dean Collins wrote: 

You should check out www.99designs.com

i use this site to find freelance design work for all my projects.

Cheers,

Dean at cognation.net

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From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Steve Totaro
Sent: Wed 11/12/2008 1:11 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without job

Ditto

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com>
wrote:

i own OptimWIFI a wireles sinternet services provider, can you do web
design, graphics, logos ?? I have a need for a graphics artist with
talent and a brain to do some graphics, logos, design, brochures. Think
you can handle it ?? i know its not much but if the work is good i can
probably get you more thru people i know 

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello my friend, I am in Shenzhen

2008/11/12 Outback Dingo <outbackdingo at gmail.com> 

	where in China do you reside ? what city ? 

	On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com>
wrote:

	Thanks for you everyone for your help, does anyone have any
part-time job for me, I can do the works of translation between english
and chinese as well as help you make purchase in China and check the
quality of goods only with small commissions.

	Also I can do photoshop and coreldraw and can help you make logo
and web

	Thank you very much everyone

	Best regards

	andy

	2008/11/12 STEVE TOTARO <STOTARO at mail.schoffstall.com>

	>-----Original Message-----
	>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com on behalf of Andrew
Kohlsmith (lists)
	>Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 7:32 PM
	>To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com

	>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] How to live in this world without
job
	>
	>On November 11, 2008 10:08:49 am Steve Totaro wrote:
	>> Sorry, they do have a purpose, and some are very fair, but
having gone
	>> through them many times over the years, I conclude they are
mostly
	>> comparable to a tick, leech, or worst case, a tape worm.
	>
	>This is an unfair stereotype.  I have had the pleasure of
working with a few
	>headhunters who have placed me where I would have never been
able to find
	>work on my own.  Not because I'm incompetent, but rather
because
	>their "reach" is so much wider than mine. Yes, their cut is
very high in my
	>opinion, but I am by and large very happy to work with them.
	>
	>I find that if you take the time to establish a good working
relationship with
	>them, and if you establish clear expectations and can
demonstrate your
	>capabilities, you end up with an excellent resource for finding
varied and
	>challenging work.
	>
	>Remember you can always turn down their offers, but why would
you write off
	>the entire industry? I am happy to work in a dozen industries
rather than
	>just one.
	>
	>-A.

	I suppose you missed this little bit "Sorry, they do have a
purpose, and some are very fair" or maybe you wouldn't be attempting to
correct me.

	A stereotype is a natural thing for humans, we group, classify,
assign a genus and phylum...  It is how we make sense of things.  Like
it or not, stereotypes are generally correct, although there are
exceptions to everything, as I stated in the beginning.

	I have worked with many of them and as I said, some are very
fair.  I liken the rest to the now extinct subprime mortgage brokers.

	Thanks,
	Steve T

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