[asterisk-biz] ANI

[Steve Totaro]

Nitzan,

Maybe you are unaware that all of this could be done with *absolutely* 
no way to trace it back to the "Culprit". 

If you cannot trace it back to the culprit AND more importantly, clear 
the INNOCENT, then more regulation is needed. 

"Culprit -> VoIP carrier who lets set CID/ANI -> ILEC or CLEC -> 
terminated to PSTN." would be stupid.

This make more sense:
Open WiFi AP (or cracked WEP)  ---->  hacked Asterisk box (who sets the 
CID/ANI ----> Telco  ------>  terminated to the PSTN

Be sure to delete appropriate logs on the hacked Asterisk boxen and just 
to be safe, spoof your laptop's MAC address.  Perform your exploit 
somewhere inconspicuous and a good distance from "home, then clean your 
laptop by using DBAN http://dban.sourceforge.net/ which is DoD 5220.22-M 
compliant, before re-installing your OS"......

Thanks,
Steve Totaro


Nitzan Kon wrote:
> Yep. True.
>
> So the issue is not needing more regulation - but just how to be able to enforce existing regulation. Not something that more regulation by itself will resolve!
>
> Of course for all these cases, there WILL be records allowing law enforcement officials (***who know what they're doing***) to trace back the calls. Even if you spoof ANI/CID - your call has to come from somewhere.
>
> Let's take your 3AM campaign suggestion for example: the way the call will go is:
>
> Culprit -> VoIP carrier who lets set CID/ANI -> ILEC or CLEC -> terminated to PSTN.
>
> Tracing it back should not be a problem if you have the proper court orders, just find out with the terminating party which ILEC/CLEC they got the call from, then find out with the ILEC/CLEC which VoIP carrier they got the call from - and then finally get the customer records from the VoIP carrier.
>
> Sure, it's not as easy as it used to be, and I may be over simplifying it - but it is possible and much better than trying to regulate who can and can't set CID. Punish the CRIMINALS - not the PROVIDERS.
>
> --- On Thu, 5/29/08, Charles Vance <cbvance at msn.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Charles Vance <cbvance at msn.com>
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ANI
>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 6:40 PM
>> each of those scenario's involve either fraud or intent
>> to do harm and are already prohibited
>> in FCC regs even absent the "Truth in Caller ID
>> Act"
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: Steve
>> Totaro<mailto:stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> 
>>   To:
>> trixter at 0xdecafbad.com<mailto:trixter at 0xdecafbad.com>
>> ; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
>> Discussion<mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com> 
>>   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 18:22
>>   Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ANI
>>
>>
>>   Setting up a drone Asterisk box to take hundreds of
>> thousands of FTP
>>   .call files at 3AM (by each time zone) and play pro
>> Hillary Clinton
>>   campaign messages (or whoever you don't like),
>> obviously spoofing
>>   her/his campaign headquarters caller ID and ANI.
>>
>>   Obtaining a new credit card from someone's mailbox
>> with the sticker to
>>   call from your home phone to activate the card.  Spoof
>> their Caller ID
>>   and ANI, activate, and buy some cool gadgets or whatever
>> people do
>>   with cards that don't belong to them.
>>
>>   Setting CallerID/ANI to clients', girlfriends',
>> bosses' cell phone and
>>   call until voicemail picks up, if no PIN is set, I have
>> full control
>>   of their voicemail (and could possibly call out, I will
>> have to test
>>   that with the call back option.  Then someone could
>> really have some
>>   fun depending on what messages they have saved)
>>
>>   So many exploits.....
>>
>>   Thanks,
>>   Steve Totaro
>>
>>