[asterisk-biz] ANI

[Charles Vance]

Speaking of Law Enforcement...they are absolutely exempt from any anti-spoof laws

Seems both the Congress and the Senate believe there are some legitimate law enforcement reasons for spoofing.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nitzan Kon<mailto:nk3569 at yahoo.com> 
  To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion<mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com> 
  Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 19:18
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ANI


  Yep. True.

  So the issue is not needing more regulation - but just how to be able to enforce existing regulation. Not something that more regulation by itself will resolve!

  Of course for all these cases, there WILL be records allowing law enforcement officials (***who know what they're doing***) to trace back the calls. Even if you spoof ANI/CID - your call has to come from somewhere.

  Let's take your 3AM campaign suggestion for example: the way the call will go is:

  Culprit -> VoIP carrier who lets set CID/ANI -> ILEC or CLEC -> terminated to PSTN.

  Tracing it back should not be a problem if you have the proper court orders, just find out with the terminating party which ILEC/CLEC they got the call from, then find out with the ILEC/CLEC which VoIP carrier they got the call from - and then finally get the customer records from the VoIP carrier.

  Sure, it's not as easy as it used to be, and I may be over simplifying it - but it is possible and much better than trying to regulate who can and can't set CID. Punish the CRIMINALS - not the PROVIDERS.

  --- On Thu, 5/29/08, Charles Vance <cbvance at msn.com<mailto:cbvance at msn.com>> wrote:

  > From: Charles Vance <cbvance at msn.com<mailto:cbvance at msn.com>>
  > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ANI
  > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com<mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>>
  > Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008, 6:40 PM
  > each of those scenario's involve either fraud or intent
  > to do harm and are already prohibited
  > in FCC regs even absent the "Truth in Caller ID
  > Act"
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Steve
  > Totaro<mailto:stotaro at totarotechnologies.com<mailto:stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>> 
  >   To:
  > trixter at 0xdecafbad.com<mailto:trixter at 0xdecafbad.com<mailto:trixter at 0xdecafbad.com<mailto:trixter at 0xdecafbad.com>>
  > ; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
  > Discussion<mailto:asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com<mailto:asterisk-biz at listsdigium.com>> 
  >   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 18:22
  >   Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] ANI
  > 
  > 
  >   Setting up a drone Asterisk box to take hundreds of
  > thousands of FTP
  >   .call files at 3AM (by each time zone) and play pro
  > Hillary Clinton
  >   campaign messages (or whoever you don't like),
  > obviously spoofing
  >   her/his campaign headquarters caller ID and ANI.
  > 
  >   Obtaining a new credit card from someone's mailbox
  > with the sticker to
  >   call from your home phone to activate the card.  Spoof
  > their Caller ID
  >   and ANI, activate, and buy some cool gadgets or whatever
  > people do
  >   with cards that don't belong to them.
  > 
  >   Setting CallerID/ANI to clients', girlfriends',
  > bosses' cell phone and
  >   call until voicemail picks up, if no PIN is set, I have
  > full control
  >   of their voicemail (and could possibly call out, I will
  > have to test
  >   that with the call back option.  Then someone could
  > really have some
  >   fun depending on what messages they have saved)
  > 
  >   So many exploits.....
  > 
  >   Thanks,
  >   Steve Totaro
  > 
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