[asterisk-biz] Any Cellular Phone Related Businesses in CanadaInterested in Call Transfers?

[Steve Totaro]

Your question not is too difficult, or too rhetorical.  If you are
questioning ethics, then state it.  I had already said that I would
not mislead any caller into thinking they reached the destination they
intended, I would correct the Canadian cell phone company at the end
of the IVR (under no obligation BTW).

How do I know that they have reached the number in error?  Maybe I
have the same transfer partners through my own business and
advertising?  There will be no operator, just IVRs.

Delinquent accounts on a cell phone do not correlate with fixing, or
poor credit so that point is moot, at least in the USA, although that
could be a helpful service for some callers.

Your "rephrased question for better understanding" does not  help for
better understanding, sorry.

Nigel Dennis, if you are still interested, email me directly (or anyone else)

Thanks,
Steve


On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:58 PM, C. Savinovich
<c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
>>>I guess you didn't read the whole thread or you would understand that
>>>helpful or similar products would be offered, not a toaster.......
>>>This is the delinquent cell phone bill line after all.
>
>  Of course I read the whole thread.  My question, rephrased for better
> understanding is/was: Operator answers the call and says "You reached this
> number in error, this is not the delinquent phone bill line, but we can fix
> your credit nevertheless..." ...I am basically being skeptical that there
> will be a positive public response to this, but I may be wrong, and if I am,
> I would welcome a response.  But, perhaps the question is too difficult, or
> too rhetorical.
>
> CS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:27 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Any Cellular Phone Related Businesses in
> CanadaInterested in Call Transfers?
>
> The mobile carrier has published my very similar number by mistake in
> their contact information somewhere.  There would be no deception.
> Just offerings that may match the demographic.  People that for
> whatever reason are delinquent on their bills.
>
> I am not sure what you don't get.  Offering alternate services that
> match the demographic while making it clear that they have not reached
> the company they intended.
>
> The correct number would be given at the end of the IVR, sales pitch,
> or transfer.
>
> I guess you didn't read the whole thread or you would understand that
> helpful or similar products would be offered, not a toaster.......
> This is the delinquent cell phone bill line after all.
>
> 1+1=1, no, it equals two.....
>
> Thanks,
> Steve T
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:56 PM, C. Savinovich
> <c.savinovich at itntelecom.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand... caller lands by mistake
>> because he/she thinks they are calling the customer service number of X
>> mobile carrier.  And then what? If Y company answers the call, what are
> they
>> going to do with it?  Are they going to pretend they are the X mobile
>> carrier? Are they going to say "look, we are not X mobile carrier, but we
>> can sell you toasters?... I don't get it... where is the value of these
> lost
>> calls?
>>
>> C. Savinovich
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:47 AM
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Any Cellular Phone Related Businesses in
>> CanadaInterested in Call Transfers?
>>
>> I have thought this out a bit.  The number is a toll free 888 vanity
>> that I paid for because it is so memorable.  I did a test with my
>> eight year old niece.  I told her the number and asked that she
>> remember it.  A week later, I asked her the number and recall was
>> immediate.
>>
>> Anyways, I am up for bids.  The number is very memorable and to clear
>> things up, my number is 888, their number is 800, but someone messed
>> up and pucblished my number.
>>
>> My thoughts on this are as follows:
>> 1.  Block international calls which I would not really want to do.
>> 2.  Have an IVR with different/companiies offers relating to products
>> that may be of interest to the caller to choose from.
>> 3.  Link up with one company and they take the calls.
>>
>> As to the price, it would  vary.based on the indented service and what
>> it is worth to you.  $2 U$D seems like a fee if the call goes over two
>> minitue, less than two minutes, no charge.  A two dollar qualified
>> leads is a bargain.
>>
>> Still thinking this through.  Suggestions and ideas are more than welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve T
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:23 PM,  <nigel.dennis at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>>                 I am interested. I do run a related business in Canada.
>>> Ontario to be exact. What do you want for the call transfer?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nigel Dennis
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From:  "Steve Totaro" <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
>>> Reply-To:  Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
>>> Discussion<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>> To:  "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
>>> Discussion"<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>> Subject:  [asterisk-biz] Any Cellular Phone Related Businesses in
>>> CanadaInterested in Call Transfers?
>>> Date:  Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:12:02 -0400
>>>>I have a phone number that has erroneously been published by one of
>>>>the larger cell phone companies in Canada.  The only issue is that the
>>>>line is for delinquent accounts.
>>>>
>>>>I get between 30-100 calls a day for that cellular company.  The
>>>>number itself is extremely memorable.  Instead of blocking Canadian
>>>>callers, I thought maybe someone on the list would be willing to pay
>>>>for these call transfers.
>>>>
>>>>I see an ideal candidate for this idea being in the prepaid cellular
>>>>biz, debt consolidation, credit, loans or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>Just a thought, but I am sure these callers could be worth something,
>>>>rather than costing me time and money (although I look very popular
>>>>because my phone rings all the time.)
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Steve Totaro
>>>>