[asterisk-biz] Fraud. (here we go again)

Igor Hernandez emistz at gmail.com
Tue Aug 19 17:28:28 CDT 2008


I second that. Google checkout will sometimes actually call the customer
 to verify his details if its a big payment.

Nitzan Kon wrote:
> Google Checkout (while not a traditional payment gateway) actually
> has pretty decent fraud controls. The reason we caught the Vietnam
> guy (and found his other accounts) is that two of his attempts via
> Google Checkout were rejected by Google as fraud.
> 
> PayPal sucks to infinity in this regard - no fraud protection at all.
> 
> --
> Nitzan Kon, CEO
> Future Nine Corporation
> www.future-nine.com
> 
> --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Al Lougher <alougher at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> All of the payment gateway's fraud detection features
>> suck. We use Bank of America's gateway and best it will
>> do is an address check. But most scammers have all that info
>> anyway.
>>
>>
>> Alan
>> www.group2call.com
>>
>> --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Peter Beckman
>> <beckman at angryox.com> wrote:
>> From: Peter Beckman <beckman at angryox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Fraud. (here we go again)
>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
>> Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 1:30 PM
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, randulo wrote:
>>
>>> As Steve T mentions an example above, wouldn't
>> this best be done by
>>> using a payment gateway that guarantees the card? This
>> is expensive,
>>> but less expensive than the potential losses. I
>> don't have a name to
>>> provide, but I worked on software for a customer last
>> year and had
>>> access to their payment system. It had optional very
>> strong fraud
>>> protection built in.
>>   If you are referring to Paypal's Fraud Protection
>> Services, they suck and
>>   are way more expensive than MinFraud.  I've found
>> MinFraud better at
>>   stopping fraud and giving me details to determine after
>> the fact if an
>>   account is fraudulent than Paypal's FPS ever did.
>>
>>   Your post would be infinitely more useful if you could
>> provide some detail
>>   about this vaporware service...
>>
>> Beckman
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Peter Beckman                                              
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>> beckman at angryox.com                                
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