[asterisk-biz] NovoGate SIP/H323 16/32 FXS/FXO Channel Bank

Steve Totaro stotaro at totarotechnologies.com
Fri Apr 18 08:42:47 CDT 2008


The tires were made by a Japanese company, according to this article
on Forbes.com and you are certainly not comparing thousands to eighty
eight?  Don't really get the logic....

http://www.forbes.com/2000/09/07/mu3.html

"Tyson also says that the 88 deaths are linked to all 47 million
Bridgestone/Firestone tires the NHTSA has studied, not just the 6.5
million that have been recalled."

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Dean Collins <Dean at cognation.net> wrote:
> Steve lets not get into a cross country pissing match-otherwise someone will point out the Firestone Tires debacle (good old USA made) - where defective products were sold for years putting millions of American lives at risk.
>
>
>  Besides this is a voip list, we should be trying to bridge these divides.
>
>
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Dean Collins
>  Cognation Pty Ltd
>  dean at cognation.net
>  +1-212-203-4357 Ph
>  +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
>
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
>
>
> > bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
>  > Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 8:55 AM
>  > To: nk3569 at yahoo.com; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>  > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] NovoGate SIP/H323 16/32 FXS/FXO Channel Bank
>  >
>  > We can barely even protect ourselves from poison and counterfeit goods
>  > from China, and have no real recourse.  How many dogs died?  How many
>  > people?  http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/06/news/toxic.php
>  >
>  > I seriously doubt (and hope) that spam is high on the list at this point.
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Steve Totaro
>  >
>  > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Nitzan Kon <nk3569 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  > > I think we have a China vs. US mindset here. Andy, maybe in China spam is still
>  > OK. But here in the US not only is it NOT OK - it is illegal and there have been known
>  > cases of people suing spammers and winning.
>  > >
>  > >  It's probably just a matter of time before we see cross-border lawsuits regarding
>  > spam. I'm no lawyer, but my guess is that if you sue a foreign company for spamming
>  > you and win- you should be able to garnish any assets they hold in the US to pay for
>  > the judgment. I would think twice about spamming US citizens if it could be linked to
>  > you legally...
>  > >
>  > >  --- On Fri, 4/18/08, Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > >
>  > >  > From: Andy Spring <andyspr at gmail.com>
>  > >
>  > > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] NovoGate SIP/H323 16/32 FXS/FXO Channel Bank
>  > >  > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-
>  > biz at lists.digium.com>
>  > >  > Date: Friday, April 18, 2008, 3:39 AM
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > but if jimmy pan do not send these spams, how can I know
>  > >  > they can provide
>  > >  > these products which I am interested, so some spam maybe
>  > >  > are not useful to
>  > >  > you but useful to some other people. So welcome spams if
>  > >  > the spamer is in
>  > >  > honesty not like some spamers only send spam but reply
>  > >  > nothing.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > 2008/4/18, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
>  > >  > <cdl at asgaard.org>:
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>  > >  > > Hash: SHA1
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > Nope Andy - there is no such thing as good and useful
>  > >  > spams.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >        Chris
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > On 18 Apr 2008, at 00.42, Andy Spring wrote:
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > > Welcome good and useful spams
>  > >  > > >
>  > >  > > > 2008/4/18, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
>  > >  > <cdl at asgaard.org>: -----BEGIN
>  > >  > > > PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>  > >  > > > Hash: SHA1
>  > >  > > >
>  > >  > > > Yup - just dropped him into the spam filter.
>  > >  > > >
>  > >  > > >        Chris
>  > >  > > >
>  > >  > > > On 17 Apr 2008, at 16.04, Matthew Rubenstein
>  > >  > wrote:
>  > >  > > >
>  > >  > > > >       Is anyone else getting spammed by
>  > >  > Jimmy Pan <jimmypan at icstel.com
>  > >  > > > >
>  > >  > > > > directly to your direct email address, with
>  > >  > the quoted/appended
>  > >  > > > > message,
>  > >  > > > > plus a big image of their product (including
>  > >  > more pitch text and
>  > >  > > > > contact
>  > >  > > > > info in pixels) in the message?
>  > >  > > > >
>  > >  > > > >
>  > >  > > > > On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 00:22 +0200, Jimmy Pan
>  > >  > wrote:
>  > >  > > > >> Dear Sir ,
>  > >  > > > >>
>  > >  > > > >> http://www.icstel.com/novogate.html
>  > >  > > > >>
>  > >  > > > >> If you are interested in this item, pls
>  > >  > let us know. Thanks!
>  > >  > > > >>
>  > >  > > > >>
>  > >  > > > >> Best Regards
>  > >  > > > >>
>  > >  > > > >> Jimmy Pan
>  > >  > > > >> I.C.S. France
>  > >  > > > >> 38 Rue Dunois,  75013 Paris France
>  > >  > > > >> Tel: 0033 1 77 69 58 67 Fax: 0033 1 56
>  > >  > 61 28 33
>  > >  > > > >> E-mail: jimmypan at icstel.com  Website:
>  > >  > http://www.icstel.com
>  > >  > > > >>
>  > >  > > > > --
>  > >  > > > >
>  > >  > > > > (C) Matthew Rubenstein
>  > >  > > > >
>  > >  > > > >
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